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Forum topic by jdyke posted 01-23-2012 08:06 PM 832 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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jdyke

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01-23-2012 08:06 PM

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Last year i bought a modular home that came with alder cabinets fiinished with moca glaze stain by Rudd a little while ago i bought a new alder pantry door with a glass center that needs to be finished before installation so i called the home manufacture to see how they finished the cabinets so i could get a match for my door and this is the reply i recived which makes me a little unsure of the procedure and being a rookie in ww i need some clarification can anyone help me?

reply from home company…

I heard back from our cabinet door supplier yesterday. They use a lacquer made by Rudd and a Mocha Glaze that is also made by Rudd. The process is you put on a coat of lacquer then the mocha glaze then wipe off and it stays where it sticks and then another coat of lacquer. Sounds like the process is similar when you want to make something look like an antique.
doesnt lacquer seal the wood so you cant stain it?


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Loren

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#1 posted 01-23-2012 08:43 PM

doesnt lacquer seal the wood so you cant stain it?

Yes. A glaze however is not a stain. The glaze may contain
solvents that helps it partially dissolve and stick to the lacquer…
or it may just sort of go into the end grain and more porous
sections of the wood. One coat of lacquer is not a complete
seal of the wood, generally – though a coat of any finish will
generally retard stain penetration to the wood fibers.

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#2 posted 01-23-2012 09:27 PM

This is actually a common practice by larger cabinet manufacturers. Basically you spray your sealer on. Then you wipe on glaze, then you put on a finish coat.

The other really common trend is to spray tinted lacquer (or varnish) instead of spraying).

You can tell which these companies are when you look at the sanding job done. Because they tend to not really sand the doors well before coating them.

-- The mark of a good carpenter is not how few mistakes he makes, but rather how well he fixes them.

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#3 posted 01-24-2012 12:19 AM

Spray the lacquer, sand it smooth, spray second coat, buf out with brown paper bag.
Spray glaze to cover everything, use clean rag to remove whatever glaze you don’t want. Generally you should be leaving it in the corners and edges more than the flat areas. Let it dry.
Spray final coat or two of lacquer.
Done and easy!

-- Sam Hamory - The project is never finished until its "finished"!

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jdyke

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#4 posted 01-24-2012 12:39 AM

I dont have a sprayer and i already bought the products from Rudd in one gallon cans….

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#5 posted 01-24-2012 01:03 AM

$19 at harbor freight buys a cup gun. $39 buys an hvlp setup. You’d need a compressor setup too—maybe you have air tools already?

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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#6 posted 01-24-2012 01:19 AM

so the information im taking from you guys is that i cant apply the finish’s with a brush?

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#7 posted 01-24-2012 01:24 AM

From your post, I get the impression that your finishing skills and equipment aren’t real great – and a glaze finish takes a fair bit of skill. The stakes go way up if you’re trying to match existing work.

You probably need to find a cabinet finisher who can handle this.

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