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BubbaIBA

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917 days ago

I’ve just added a saw sharpening area to my sharpening bench. I’ve always used sharpening services before but after the move to Tucson I’ve been unable to find one locally. After cleaning up several of my old Freud back saws (most from the late 70s and early 80s) and sharpening them I question why I waited so long. They cut fast and true, every bit as good as one of my newer handmade saws, much better than any saw I’ve had sharpened by a service.

Anyway raised a question: Am I just slow and everyone else has been sharpening their own saws? Hope not, I hate always riding in the short bus.


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paratrooper34

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#1 posted 917 days ago

Bubba, I just purchased a saw sharpening DVD to learn and got an old vise. Haven’t jumped in yet, but coming soon. I think if you got an answer from all hand tools users, you would find a lot send theirs out to get sharpened. I get that impression from readings and postings and such.

-- Mike

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#2 posted 917 days ago

I want to start doing that as well. How steep is the learning curve? I saw this Lie-Nielsen video and figured I could do that!

Maybe you should write a blog about how you go about doing it.

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#3 posted 917 days ago

I am on the fence still

-- Norman

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BubbaIBA

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#4 posted 916 days ago

Thanks guys, I’m new to this board so I haven’t figured out all the posting options i.e. replying with quotes so here is a general reply:

There is a lot of good info on sharpening saws, the mentioned Lie Nielson video, Paul Sellers blog http://paulsellers.com/2012/01/minimalist-tools-dovetail-saws/ , Tools for Working Wood’s site http://www.toolsforworkingwood.com//Merchant/merchant.mvc?/Merchant/merchant.mvc , a good video on FWW on sharpening a rip saw http://www.finewoodworking.com/SkillsAndTechniques/SkillsAndTechniquesArticle.aspx?id=24976, to link a few.

The good part is it is not too expensive to set up, less than $300 USD for every thing you need (much less if you make a wooden saw vice instead of buying a metal one), and even if you screw up no harm is done other than the loss of a mm or two of saw plate. Another nice part is feed back is instant….you sharpen then take your sharpened saw to the wood and cut a line, it will either start easily, cut fast and true or not. If it doesn’t cut true, take a hone to the high side. If it is hard to start or cuts slowly look at the rake, if it binds you may need more set, if the kerf is too large and rough less set. Pretty simple and once you get it dialed in it is really sweet.

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BubbaIBA

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#5 posted 916 days ago

I left out a couple of useful links:

http://thesawblog.com/

http://www.vintagesaws.com/

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Bob Downing

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#6 posted 913 days ago

Bubba, like you I just started sharpening my own saws. I have the Pax saws from LV. Could not believe the difference from out of the box to now. The Pax saws are supposed to be hand sharpened from manfacturer, but when I looked close at my rip saw I saw flat spots on many teeth. Must have been a Friday when they sharpened mine. Anyway, it took me a couple of attempts and a couple of hours to get it right. The thing cuts great and runs straight. A lesson I learned was to use VERY light pressure on the saw set. Too much pressure will dent the side of the tooth. Not a problem now but after a few sharpenings I’m going to have to deal with them. And patience is critical when learning to do this. I got the saw vise from Tools for Working Wood as a Christmas present the the wife. The thing works great.

-- BobD Chandler, AZ

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cam1297

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#7 posted 913 days ago

Bubba,

Is that the vise from toolsforworkingwood? If so, how do you like it and could you give a little review/information about it. I have been thinking about getting one since I recently came into a stash of 7 panel saws that need restoration.

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BubbaIBA

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#8 posted 913 days ago

BobD,

Pretty much my experience, I use just above the lightest set and it seems to work for rip. I’ve also found that even if the shape isn’t 100% perfect one of my refurbished saws still cuts better or as well as my high dollar hand made saws.

This morning I re-toothed an older English Dovetail saw from a 22 tpi crosscut to a 12 tpi rip, took less than an hour and turned a worthless saw into a great cutting tool.

New,

It works as advertised. Solid, easy to clamp and makes sharpening a pleasure. I expect a shop made saw vice would work as well, might not be as easy to use but it would also cost less.

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Don W

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#9 posted 913 days ago

I try to sharpen. I’ve posted some references
And have learned a lot from the guys that Hang out here http://lumberjocks.com/topics/27984

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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