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01-10-2012 05:41 AM

Topic tags/keywords: walnut

I found a listing today on Craigslist for walnut burl actually I believe its going to be claro walnut. My question is I have to hire a guy who I’ve worked with before on cutting it down then milling it for me. I know what he’s going to charge me but the lady selling the wood said to make her an offer.

The tree has had all the limbs, and smaller branches cut off and debris cleaned from site. Here’s a link to the add what would you guys offer for the tree?

http://modesto.craigslist.org/mat/2789893252.html

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#1 posted 01-10-2012 05:44 AM

Diameter of 35’.
Good golly !

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#2 posted 01-10-2012 05:48 AM

I said the same thing even when I called her she confirmed the same size.

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#3 posted 01-10-2012 06:09 AM

I think he said “good golly” because she has 35 FEET written there…..not inches :) From the picture it doesnt even look like 35”

Also, that section doesnt look very long, and not very straight either. After you account for the sapwood, you arent going to have a TON of walnut lumber. On top of that you have to pay someone to mill it. I wouldnt pay much for it. As far as an actual number…i have no idea – it depends on where you are at and what the prices of walnut is in your area. I live in Iowa….if i had to haul it away, mill it..etc…etc…i probably wouldnt pay more than $50 for it.

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#4 posted 01-10-2012 06:42 AM

Dohhh. 35’ wow I was pulling the cart before the horse on that.

Dakremer- I was thinking about the same thing for a price range maybe a little less. I plan on taking a look at it tomorrow and let her know possibly what I’d give for it.

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#5 posted 01-10-2012 06:46 AM

Looks like a black walnut root stock grafted to english walnut. Isn’t that what they consider “claro” walnut? I believe that most claro walnut are orchard trees. I bet you that tree has metal in it. Yard trees are metal magnets. Don’t ask me how I know.

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#6 posted 01-11-2012 03:12 AM

LOL..where would we be without typeoohhhs ?

I wouldn’t pay over $50 either….maybe $35 would be my first offer.

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#7 posted 01-11-2012 07:38 PM

English walnut trees were imported, and didn’t grow well unless grafted onto our native black walnut trees. Claro is a term for the black walnut that grows on the west coast, it has a much darker wood than the eastern black walnut. Yard trees are risky alright, there is almost a guarantee that somewhere in there is a nail or spike; but that is a cost of cutting it up; your sawyer knows all about that for sure. I would love to get that tree, sure wish it was local. With all the variables involved I wouldn’t offer them a penny for it but rather a very nice turning from the wood, i’ve gotten a lot of logs that way and everyone ends up happy. One thing to remember is that the big money wood in black walnut is in the root ball; make every effort you can to get it all if possible. They do not grow tap roots but instead grow many out-reaching roots making getting the root ball possible by going around the base with a large stump grinder then giving it a yank.

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#8 posted 01-11-2012 07:40 PM

^I’m with Dakremer, I don’t think there’s a ton of usable wood there. Of course, I certainly wouldn’t turn it away! I bet there will be some fun figure at the “Y” if you’re the turning type. I’m guessing the seller mostly just wants it out of there. I’d probably say $50 and I’ll get it out of there right now.

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#9 posted 01-11-2012 07:45 PM

20 bucks and honestly, I would ask for 100 bucks to lug it away

you have to cut it down
have it cut into timber
dry it, wax the ends…………..years later it “might” be ready
when you hit a nail, what does a new blade cost ?
How much is “YOUR” time worth had you worked ?

Compare the above cost, to just going out and buying some

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#10 posted 01-11-2012 07:48 PM

^cut it down? I must have missed that part. That would definitely change things for me. Walnut is $8/bf in my neck of the woods. Unless you’ve got your own mill, I’m not sure I’d fuss with it.

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#11 posted 01-12-2012 03:09 AM

I never harvest any wood myself. I find buying from local hardwood dealers is much simpler and cost effective for us.

I do have a friend who owns his own sawmill, a very nice one. He mills his own logs and does some really nice high end wood furnishings. He has told me that it makes him chuckle when people offer to sell him their logs. He has advised me that the labor invested in hauling logs off and milling them makes it cost prohibitive when he is forced to pay for logs. He markets himself as a green builder and tries to utilize fallen logs or hauls logs that were fallen from development.

My thoughts would be to charge the lady 50.00. You could tell her normally you would charge 50.00 but since she is so nice you will only charge her 20.00 :)

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#12 posted 01-19-2012 04:35 PM

That is a graft line claro/english walnut tree the top portion being engllish and the bottom claro. IF the tree is 35” in diameter it would be worth more than the suggested $50.00 as the slabs typically sell for hundreds of dollars each as coffee tables. The issue with claro/english are two fold. It is difficult to dry and you cannot ship green out of the state of CA due to thousand cankor disease. I have sawn many of these years ago and it makes wonderful furniture and a very interesting one piece gunstock.

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#13 posted 01-19-2012 08:31 PM

Interesting, I would email Greg drom Oregonburls on here. He deals with this type of wood everyday and would be a big help I’m sure.

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#14 posted 01-19-2012 10:12 PM

First of all, the diameter of that trunk is not 35” or 35’. I would guess it at 80” to 90”.

You are going to get very few nice, clear boards in this tree. However, you would have some appealing wood for turning. Crotch cuts are often very interesting for turning and some people will pay a premium price for a good piece of crotch walnut. (Note, that last sentence could have a whole different meaning without the last word.)

IMO – this wood should be used for turning. If you don’t turn – either let it go or buy it and cut it up for turning and sell it for turnings. Note – a lot of turners, myself included, would rather see the whole tree and direct you regarding how they want a piece cut off.

FYI – If I lived closer so that shipping was not such an issue, I would gladly pay $20 to $40 for some prime cuts from this tree that I would use for turning. If you could find the buyers, this tree could easily bring you $300+. Contact your local turning club.

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#15 posted 01-19-2012 10:46 PM

This tree does not appear to be 80 or 90 inches in diameter. Perhaps the circumference is 80 to 90 inches. That divided by pi would give you about 30 inches in diameter. The height appears to be about the height of the building eave behind it. That would make it about 8 or 9 ft tall (above ground). Cost? Well whatever you have to pay for it. you decide what you can afford and whether you want it. That stump is going to be a lot of work to get out of there. I personally wouldn’t pay much for it. After you figure the cost of removing it, hauling it, milling it, drying it and throwing away the splits. The store on the corner is a sure bet. If you really want the root ball you will probably need a backhoe to dig it up and load it on your trailer.

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