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Forum topic by HorizontalMike posted 01-08-2012 06:11 PM 3396 views 0 times favorited 21 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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01-08-2012 06:11 PM

Topic tags/keywords: suspension non-shop forum politics religion

During this past week, myself (HorizontalMike), Rockytopscott and miket/The Dude have all experienced a one-week suspension from LJs for inappropriate behavior in the NON-shop Talk Forum.

Did we deserve it? ABSOLUTELY

Did we learn anything DURING this suspension? Below, you will find a detailed report as to how/what I did during the one-week suspension.
PLEASE NOTE: I have UNBLOCKED Rockytopscott and miket/TheDude specifically so they may also post here to show what THEY accomplished during this time spent in suspension. I do expect any posts made to be civil.

My Impressions Of Serving A Suspension - This may actually be a useful tool for LJs Admin to use, if it is applied on a consistent basis. Consistency is the key here because there are many others who now look almost squeaky clean because SO MUCH of their offensive postings have been deleted (even though they have served no suspension). It is my hope that this is changing as we go forward and I want to openly support Martin and all LJs Admin in taking a pro-active approach to the issues with political/religious topics in the non-shop talk forum.

ENJOY my project in progress. I will post a complete Projects Page once it is complete. I am amazed that this thing will have around 110 pieces combined when complete.
BELOW – I was already in the process of starting my Barrister’s Bookcase project and was just at this point just before my suspension started.

BELOW – Got caught by the girlfriend in the MAN ROOM ;-) during my LJs suspension.

BELOW – Improved stack showing dados, tenons, etc.

BELOW – Mortises for floating tenons

BELOW – Very long dados USING my horizontal mortising machine are possible.

BELOW – Mortising machine setup for LONG dados

BELOW – Mortising machine setup for LONG dados

BELOW – My future panel inserts for the ENDs of the bookcase.

BELOW – Mockup (not glued) of end panels. I am trying to decide how to match up my book-matched panels that I ripped from the above piece of +8/4 Ash.

BELOW – STAIN ISSUES have come up in that my 1/4in Veneer ply does NOT stain the same as my solid Ash pieces. Need some suggestions/help concerning stain matching here.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#1 posted 01-08-2012 06:17 PM

Wow !!!

I would call that “time well served.”

Sadly, I’m betting that other suspensions, for other members, are coming down the pike.

Welcome back, Y’all !

-- -- Neil

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#2 posted 01-08-2012 06:23 PM

Mike, on the staining problem try sanding the solid ash to a higher grit than your veneer. If your veneer is sanded at 180-220, try maybe 320 on the Ash? It should close up the pores more than a lower grit which in theory will lighten the amount of stain that will be absorbed. And I like your last stain choice if i were to choose. Good luck, keep us posted!

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#3 posted 01-08-2012 06:29 PM

Nice work. Welcome back. -Jack

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#4 posted 01-08-2012 06:35 PM

Proud of you Mike!

-- John from Hampstead

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#5 posted 01-08-2012 06:46 PM

Nice looking use of the time, panels are looking good.

-- --Rev. Russ in NY-- A posse ad esse

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#6 posted 01-08-2012 07:17 PM

Mike, I agree with Jacob, although I would try a section too by raising the grain with alcohol or mineral spirits, then sand down after it dries. From there try your stain.
An alternative method I’ve used with white pine was to boil the stain down on a hot plate outside until it was a bit more concentrated and then apply it.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#7 posted 01-08-2012 07:31 PM

Excellent woodworking.
Staining ply to match can be daunting. I just keep playing with scraps until a stain combo matches. Frustrating at times, but I usually get there.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#8 posted 01-08-2012 08:57 PM

Thanks for the info Jacob. Yeah, the solid Ash has NOT even been sanded, only planed. At least the plywood is ONLY being used for the inside floor and back panels so if it off just a bit, it might not be that noticed. The side panels, as I indicated will all be solid Ash. I am just hoping to get a closer match than I have thus far.

I am tending to favor the top-right dual-stain of Provincial over Golden Oak. To me, the Provincial only is a bit too gray-chocolate for my tastes. I originally bought it for a project but ended up not using it because I couldn’t get it to look like the samples at HD. I really like bringing out the tree rings without darkening the smooth wood between them.

Another method I might try is (All stains/finishes are Minwax):
1. Tung Oil Finish FIRST
2. THEN do the Golden Oak and/or Provincial Stain.
3. Finish with multiple coats of Tung Oil Finish


-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#9 posted 01-08-2012 09:34 PM

Looking superb, Mike. I’ve had one of these on my list for a long time. I’m impressed that you’re putting your mortiser through its paces. I can’t help you with the differential staining; I’m sure you’ll get it squared away.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#10 posted 01-08-2012 09:44 PM

Amazing what can be accomplished when you step away from the keyboard! ;)

As for finishes, you can mix the stain right into the Tung oil and apply it that way.
Do a test sample board first to find the combo that you like. I’ve found that it doesn’t take that much stain mixed with the tung oil to get the color you want.

-- Doug...

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#11 posted 01-08-2012 09:50 PM


Welcome back. How about sealing everything with a wash coat of shellac to even the playing field? Just a guess, but superb work.


-- Steve in KY. 44 years so far with my lovely bride. Think I'll keep her.

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#12 posted 01-09-2012 01:36 AM

Hey Doug,
All my apologies, really. In December, while very active on the LJs keyboard, I got TWO projects posted. Here in January after ONE week of suspension, I have MAYBE ONLY one half of a project posted. I understand that I am BARELY keepin’ up with my keyboard PLUS WW-in’ but I’m tryin’, HONEST!

Things are going to slow down with the matching of the staining process, BUT I PROMISE to keep up with the WW-ing as I return to the keyboard! THAT seems to motivate me the MOST!


-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#13 posted 01-09-2012 02:48 AM

It has now been 9-hours since posting this… Rockytopscott has been posting on LJs, so just what have YOU done with your suspension? You STILL have me blocked so I cannot ask you directly. I have unblocked you so that you may share, so please do.

Miket appears to still be absent…

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#14 posted 01-09-2012 05:03 AM

Wow mike..nice work..I was wondering what happened to you..I been slugging it out with the short bus posse for a few days and I haven’t seen you chime in..did they make you promise to be a good little Republican to come back?


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#15 posted 01-09-2012 08:17 PM

Last night I tried sealing a piece of the Ash ply w/Tung Oil Finish and it just looks SO white/blond when compared to an equal piece of the solid Ash. I swear that this veneer ply Ash has been bleached or something! It takes stain, but just not even close to how the solid Ash does.

More testing needed, but it does look like I am going to be using alternating stains (maybe GoldenOak/Provincial/GoldenOak/+several TungOil coats) in order to come closer to matching the ply with the solid Ash.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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