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JimH

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01-07-2012 02:02 AM

Topic tags/keywords: tablesaw accessory question

I would like to make an zero clearance insert plate for my PCB220ts … it is a very different shape and application than I have seen before. Can any one help me?

Jim

-- Jim H 'if we didn't do it right, we'll often think we should have'


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Mark Shymanski

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#1 posted 01-18-2012 05:26 AM

A picture may help?

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#2 posted 01-18-2012 10:35 PM

Thanx Mark – here’s what I have… I’ll try to get a better one soon…

-- Jim H 'if we didn't do it right, we'll often think we should have'

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#3 posted 01-19-2012 12:08 AM

I make mine from either UHMW or MDF. Use the existing plate for a template with a bearing guided router bit on the router table. Put the blank in the TS and SLOWLY raise the blade that you will use thru the plate while holding the blank in place with a caul across the TS. I will fit set screws in the insert for adjustment.
Some saws will require the edges to be relieved for flush fit to the table top. I do this with the router table.
Bill

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#4 posted 01-19-2012 01:00 AM

Hey thanx for the reply Bill, the application is real different from most saws that I’ve worked with. the insert is quite narrow, I’m working on posting some pics as soon as my camera charges up I’ll get them on here.

Appreciate your input – thanx

Jim

-- Jim H 'if we didn't do it right, we'll often think we should have'

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#5 posted 01-19-2012 01:20 AM

here an different take on an I have used for a a fast ZCI. http://joneakes.com/learning-curve/110-rip-cut-cutting-plastic-laminate#videocontainer151 the video explains it very well.

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#6 posted 01-19-2012 03:22 AM

Jim…I recently got this saw, but haven’t taken it out of the box yet. Before purchasing it I did a lot of research on it and one of its biggest negatives was the difficulty of a ZCI. Not sure if anyone has figured it out yet, but try checking out the product reviews on Lowe’s website and see if anyone has suggested anything good. If you figure it out let me know since once I start using mine I’m sure I will wanna make a ZCI and a insert for my dado set

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson

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#7 posted 01-19-2012 05:40 AM

Here’s what we’re looking at…

!http://i1062.photobucket.com/albums/t497/jimhibbard/035.jpg!

cool video Andew, I’m sure that technique will come in handy later on.
Ben – I will check out Lowes – if I find anything I’ll let you know. By all means get that saw out of the box, it is a great little saw, tune it up and have fun, it travels easy too.

-- Jim H 'if we didn't do it right, we'll often think we should have'

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#8 posted 01-19-2012 06:01 AM

This is my one major complaint about this saw. The plate is not good at all. I hope someone smarter than me comes up with something to deal with this.

Also, Jim from the picture it looks like you had the same problem as me getting a sticker off and scratching up the plate a little. Glad it wasn’t just me :)

This really isn’t a well designed part of the saw.

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#9 posted 01-19-2012 06:15 AM

I always tell my wife that anything can be made out of wood. I have a hard time believing that this is the one thing that can’t be done though you may have to remove the riving knife on the back of the blade. It will probably be bit until I have a chance to use it since I currently have no shop, my tools are all packed away, and my saw is sitting in a storage unit. Once I buy my house this summer it will be one of the first things I do.

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson

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#10 posted 02-15-2012 02:16 PM

I made a zci for an old Craftsman ts that I inherited from my dad and it turned out very well. So well that I actually made a few “designer plates also. To me, what makes this one so difficult is there are no hold down screws for the plate. Hold down consists of a prong on one end to slip into a slot on the throat and the other end consists of a molded and attached spring clip that fits under the table rim on the near end. I’m going out right now and try again. I’m not going to let this thing beat me. Just need to figure out how to duplicate this spring. If successful, I’ll post a pic or too. If not successful, I’ll post a pic of the hole in the shed wall. LOL!!! JK!!! I’m already past that stage.

Maybe I can incorporate those 2 leveling hex screws as hold down screws somehow.

Richard

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#11 posted 02-15-2012 03:34 PM

I have a similar style of insert I’ll be watching this thread.

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#12 posted 02-15-2012 05:02 PM

Thanx for the encouragement all…I may just use a sheet if formica and get it over with…

-- Jim H 'if we didn't do it right, we'll often think we should have'

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#13 posted 03-04-2012 04:07 AM

Just saw a magazine tip where they suggested using tape to basically create a ZCI. Wonder how this could work to solve the problem on this saw. Obviously if you needed something SUPER accurate or were making certain cuts that wouldn’t work, but I think it could potentially work in a number of situations where you needed a ZCI.

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson

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#14 posted 03-04-2012 09:58 AM

Well, I’ve fashioned one out of wood, I just need to figure out how to secure it now. I’ve got the close(nearest to your belly) screw hole done. It helps that the wood at that point is thick. At the screw hole at the other end, the wood is thinner thus making it very difficult to drill and recess a hold for a screw and the screw head. Since I have been able to fully lock down my new “plate”, I haven’t brought the blade up through it yet. Heck, the whole thing could just shatter at that point for all I know. I’ll try to insert a couple of pics here. This is a side by side of the oem & what I’ve contrived so far.

The next couple of pics show the little built in latches on the oem plate. If I could figure some way to put these on the wooden plate, that would solve all the problems.

The next pic is the near end with the spring latch.

The next pic shows the near end and where I’ve put the screw hole. Actually, on the oem plate, these screws were for leveling only, not to hold it in place.

-- Richard

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#15 posted 03-05-2012 05:21 PM

Thanx Ben and Richard
I thot this request had died, I am going to get a piece of formica and see how that will work. Basically I will cut it big enough to cover my whole table rather than just the insert.

Richard good luck with your idea I am interested in seeing how you make out

Thanx you guys

-- Jim H 'if we didn't do it right, we'll often think we should have'

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