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Forum topic by GMman posted 01-06-2012 09:32 PM 567 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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01-06-2012 09:32 PM

Topic tags/keywords: opinion

Not one of the ones trying to get in will do any better.
The mess was created by the previous one and it will take years to fix.
Give the present one a chance, it’s a very big mess that Bush made.


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#1 posted 01-06-2012 09:46 PM

I say keep what you have for another 4 , the jobs are coming 200,000.

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#2 posted 01-06-2012 09:50 PM

Is another one of these threads needed?

-- Patrick, Helicopters don't fly. They beat the air into submission.

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#3 posted 01-06-2012 10:54 PM

How can you expect a man to fix a MESS in 4 years that has been going on for 10 years and still not over yet ?

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#4 posted 01-07-2012 12:35 AM

To me it is about trajectory – - there are a lot of problems – many going on far more than 10 years.

What has he fixed -

In the past 3 years are things getting ANY better?

Is the Direction being taken to fix it one you agree with?

If you think of the actions so far- the piling of debt, the appointments, the backroom dealings (yeah all admins make them) are wise then vote to re—elect.
But quesion is Obama is driving the bus right now, and he should only get your vote if you like both the route and the destination in mind.

Think of it as starting in Iowa :-) just convenient and you have two busses heading for the beach.

One is going though Nebraska/wyoming/utah to San Francisco via death valley – to a beach you would not want to go to with your family -

The other is going through kansas colorado the grand canyon Vegas to Malibu…

Both are going to the beach but that destination vision is radially different, as is the attractiveness of the Route.

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison

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#5 posted 01-07-2012 12:49 AM

One good thing that he has done was to bring those troops back home alive.
I feel bad for the ones that came back in a box…….too many of them

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#6 posted 01-07-2012 12:53 AM

Sorry GM, but this ass has done nothing but multiply our problems. The real issue belongs to Clinton, he is the jackass that opened trade with China which has cost this country millions of jobs since then.

-- Carpenter assembles with hands, Designer builds with brains, Artist creates with heart!

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#7 posted 01-07-2012 01:00 AM

But the Iraq withdrawl isn’t something that Obama pushed up by even a day – BUSH SIGNED THE WITHDRAWAL AGREEMENT in 2008

So Obama just finished the Bush agreement to have all US forces out by 12/31/2011 – - -

Iraq and U.S. agree that all U.S. forces will withdraw ”no later than December 31, 2011.” On November 17, 2008, US and Iraqi officials signed a Security Agreement, often referred to as a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA), stating that “All the United States Forces shall withdraw from all Iraqi territory no later than December 31, 2011.” The agreement also called for all U.S. combat forces to withdraw from Iraqi cities “no later than June 30, 2009.” [U.S.-Iraq Status of Forces Agreement, 11/17/08]

That Obama brought them home is like saying that Clinton gave the Canal to Panama 12/31/99 – - when it was Carter that made the agreement in 1977 and inked the deal

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison

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