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01-04-2012 06:38 PM

Topic tags/keywords: night stand table walnut drawer question

I am looking to build a night sand similar to the one pictured above. I would like some suggestions on design.

1. Since the drawers cover the entire front would you use a solid hardwood side vs a veneer ply? THe ply would show when the drawers are open is my concern. Also if the veneer ply was used I would have to worry about the ply showing on the back or sides as well.

2. Would you use some sort of a face frame in this situation since the drawer faces cover the entire front? Or would you basically build a 3 sided carcass and add the crossbar to support the drawer?

3. How would I hide the slides when the drawer is open? One thought I had was if I had face frame I could use that for drawer support and also to hide the drawer slides a little that would be attached to the hardwood sides. I just am not sure if that would be common practice.

4. Also to acheive the no seams look on the sides would I be able to “inset” the face fram inside of the front? Usually I would put the face frame on the outside of the front.

I hope that I was clear enough in describing what I was trying to acheive here. One other note that might help..I plan on using walnut. I think it would also help if I knew some more joinery. I could probably better visualize how to join together wood to get the desired look I am looking for. That will come with time and experience. Do not be affraid to use the terms as I am quite familiar with looking up joinery that I am not familiar with.


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#1 posted 01-04-2012 09:47 PM

1 =>2. Would you use some sort of a face frame in this situation since the drawer faces cover the entire front? Or would you basically build a 3 sided carcass and add the crossbar to support the drawer?

if you like the euro cab you could use hardwood ply and wood veneer, lots of guys could help with that here.

3. How would I hide the slides when the drawer is open? One thought… two options of many,

www.blum.com/pdf/BUS/2012solob/2012solob.pdf

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=21477

4. Also to achieve the no seams look…..

if it’s dimensional lumber and face frame you want with no visible seams you could miter or use a lock-miter router bit. I found the lock-miter to be a bit tricky yet effective once the setup is right and the lumber is straight and squared stock.

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#2 posted 01-04-2012 10:38 PM

Would the design I have pictured be considered a Euro style?

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#3 posted 01-04-2012 10:48 PM

From what I can tell, the photo is a Frameless (Euro, or 32mm style) cabinet.

This is easily done in plywood and has left, right, top, bottom and back in 3/4” plywood.
The edges would be treated with a veneer banding. This is usually available in an iron-on adhesive backing for the hobbyist.

Extending the side up to support the top and crown molding, and extending the sides down to adjustable feet behind the furniture base molding is fairly typical. 3/4” X 3/4” cleats are typically used in these spaces to keep externally visible fasteners to a minimum.

Blind dado joints for the top, bottom and drawer stretcher adds strength and rigidity to the carcass.

The drawer fronts are usually solid wood to allow the edges to be routed with a profile. Undermount drawer guides like the ones noted by others are also common, though a full extension side mounted guide is also commonly used.

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#4 posted 01-06-2012 07:38 PM


THanks all for your advice…I did find a book at a local bookstore that has been helpful in describing some of the above mentioned techniques as well as many new ones.

I am considering using the above pictured type of drawer slide in the night stand mentioned above. As long as I dont screw through the entire side I do not see really any problems with this mount and it will allow me to easily leave minimal gap between the drawers.

Also is there any issue I will run into if I do not make the drawers the same size as the face? I will make them nearly the same width but the height I think I will shorten to avoid having to glue up some taller side boards.

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