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Forum topic by Stephenw posted 01-03-2012 08:37 PM 2535 views 0 times favorited 8 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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01-03-2012 08:37 PM

I picked up a used HF 14” bandsaw for $100. Researching the saw, I have found that a riser block kit is a popular modification. This increases the resaw capacity from 6” to 9”. I have a 6” jointer, so I think this modification would not be worth the money. Thoughts?

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#1 posted 01-03-2012 09:03 PM

Stephenw—That all depends on what you intend to do with your saw. Some folks find the greater re-saw capacity to be a real advantage … others, not so much.

I have a Jet 14” with 6” capacity. Hind-sight being what it is (20/20), I wish I would have added the riser kit when I bought it.

It is good that you are asking now, instead of waiting until you have the saw in service. If I were to add it to my saw now, I’d have to replace all of the blades I have acquired at considerable expense.

—Gerry

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#2 posted 01-03-2012 09:18 PM

For years I had an old Monkey Wards 12” band saw(made by Walker Turner). It did not have much capacity.
Finally got a 14”Delta and the first thing I did was install the riser kit. I don’t often need the deeper throat-but it is sure a bonus when I do. I feel pretty confident in saying that I don’t notice any difference in blade life either.
Hope this helps.
tom

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#3 posted 01-03-2012 09:40 PM

I hope you got all the parts with it. I don’t see the guide post, upper guides guard etc… there…

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#4 posted 01-03-2012 09:43 PM

dbhost, good eye. The upper blade guide assembly is missing. I ordered the missing parts from Harbor Freight. For $32 and a short 6 to 8 weeks, I should be back in business.

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#5 posted 01-04-2012 12:00 AM

I had a riser block in mine for a while. I took it out. This just isn’t a saw designed to cut 12” material. Not enough power, not sturdy enough to properly tension a wide blade. In fact I ended up snapping off the upper wheel mount from the balde tension, it’s just not heavy duty enough.

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#6 posted 01-04-2012 12:10 AM

StumpyNubs.

The ability of the HF saw to cut 12” depends a LOT on the blade. I use 1/2 3TPI Timberwolf blades with good results on 11” stock (never pushed it to the limit). Yes the feed rate is slow, but it works well enough for resawing stock all day long…

I have seen lots of posts about 14” band saws snapping the upper wheel mount / adjuster. The HF has been known to do that, but the one that is somewhat noted for the failure is the Jet… Not sure why… Again, the issue might just be tension like you mentioned. The Timberwolf blades take lower tension than most others…

As far as flattening stock over 6”, I use a planer sled…

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#7 posted 01-04-2012 06:20 AM

I can go both ways. I put one on mine. Useless without getting a better spring. I got the cobra coil.

On the plus side, it mounted and I didn’t even have to align anything. It was right on for tracking with the addition.

It gives you close to 12”.

The kit comes with a set of longer blade guards so if yours are missing, you will be set. If you don’t get it, I can look around and see if I still have the shorter stuff from mine. Give me a PM if you are interested (Shipping only, it is just taking up space here.)

D.

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#8 posted 01-05-2012 08:27 AM

Just a quick commment on some of the concerns about riser blocks,at least with Delta I am not aware of a breakage issue. When I set mine up 8-10 years ago I also installed an Iturra tension spring(real heavy duty) I also have a tentency to over tension the blade to the next widest size.IOW for a 3/16” I will tension itto the 1/4” mark. Not to brag but I wear out blades and seldom do I have a breakage. FYI when a blade is going to break it will begin to make a ticking sound-sorta an early warning.
As far as the set-up is concerned-as long as you have the correct co-planar relationship between the wheels and the table is square to the blade front to back and side to side and blade tension is good—what’s the problem.
cr1 when the above is correct please explain how the guides can “be out of square”. The guides are referenced to the blade AFTER the blade is tensioned. I always have to reset the guides when I change a blade.
tom

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