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Forum topic by pintodeluxe posted 01-03-2012 07:38 AM 6617 views 0 times favorited 4 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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pintodeluxe

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01-03-2012 07:38 AM

Topic tags/keywords: lacquer wax tint universal color briwax black bison howards glaze glazing lacquered pre-cat pre-catalyzed cabinets kitchen

I want to add a little color to my kitchen cabinets without refinishing them. They are nutmeg oil based stain on oak, which is a medium orange-brown color. My target color is a touch darker to match the Rodda #19 stain the rest of our decor (one shade darker on the rodda chart). The cabinets are lacquered and in really good shape.

I have tried spraying tinted lacquer on past projects – just a teaspoon or two of universal color per quart of lacquer. I had pretty good results with this, but it can be tricky to get the color even. Also, if you get any runs in the lacquer they will have more concentrated color in those spots.

I am wondering if anyone has tried glazing cabinets over lacquer.
Or better yet if there is a wax that can darken the finish a bit. I tried Howard’s Walnut wax, but it didn’t change the color. Briwax? Black Bison?
Any ideas?

Thanks

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush


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#1 posted 01-03-2012 08:00 AM

You can get black paste wax. Be warned, it has solvents
in it that normal paste wax doesn’t have. I put some on
a recently spray-painted surface once and it make the
paint ruck up and come off.

The black wax will concentrated in corners and recesses
naturally. It shifts the tone of the piece towards a shade
or so darker, but it doesn’t deliver a uniformly dark shift
in color. Try some black shoe polish on a test piece and
you’ll get an idea of what the wax will do.

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#2 posted 01-03-2012 02:16 PM

I’ve tried this before and found tinted waxes only really have an effect when applied to natural timber, by the time they are buffed up over a lacquer they are that thin that you’d hardly know that they are there.

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#3 posted 01-03-2012 03:27 PM

I can say that Glazing is probably not the choice you’re looking for. In my experience we have always glazed the primer/sealer coat. then 2 top coats over that. It seems you’re trying not to reapply the topcoats.

Another good point about the glaze is it is intended to be built up in any little crevice or ridge. You wuill surely have a ton in the corners if you have raised panel doors. All the profiles will also get it.

My reccomendation is a tint coat. You’ll have to spray it anyways over the glaze. Wipe all to be tinted surfaces with an oil and grease remover that is compatible with your new finish. Spray the parts from about 18”-24” and dont try to get the color to match wet…. let it dry many light coats is always better than one thick coat.

You may have to put a final clear coat to make it nice to the touch.

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#4 posted 10-23-2013 09:39 PM

Update: I decided on tinted lacquer. It came out great but it was not easy. The tinted lacquer can only be applied by spray gun.
http://lumberjocks.com/projects/63811

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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