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12-31-2011 07:49 PM

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Hey Folks,

When we moved into our house a couple years back I made an attempt to repaint our kitchen cabinets. Originally they were an ancient old grey/brown color. Solid wood though, and nothing I wanted to toss at the time.

I was thinking about refacing them. Does anyone know a good company that will sell directly to the public? My internet searches have been less than encouraging. Has refacing proven to be a bust and that’s why there is so little business now?

Thanks,

Milo

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#1 posted 12-31-2011 08:16 PM

I’ve never seen a good refacing job. That said, most were done by poorly equiped homeowners or sloppoy workmen.
Why not repaint with a good color/glaze/clearcoat, new hardware, etc.?
Bill

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#2 posted 12-31-2011 08:26 PM

As a cabinet maker myself, I have to say that even the best refacing job I ever saw wouldn’t be allowed in my house. They always look like what they are – an attempt to cheap out. Many of the homeowner jobs (and some of the “pro jobs”) begin peeling within a few months.

Instead of refacing over a bad paint job, why not do a thorough clean, strip, fill, sand, and repaint. You could even replace the doors, drawerfronts, and hardware for a complete new look.

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#3 posted 12-31-2011 09:40 PM

Bill, Sawkerf

Could you guys advice me on the proper steps on repainting these cabinets RIGHT?

At this point, I have unevenly painted white cabinets. I want to stay white, or off white. I’d really like to get them to a flat, smooth surface if possible.

Thanks,

Milo

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#4 posted 12-31-2011 09:49 PM

Lots of sanding, filling and primering. A nice paint job is rooted
in thorough preparation.

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#5 posted 01-01-2012 12:26 AM

I would sand like crazy to get a smooth surface, prime with Zinsser seal coat, then paint as you wish. I have mostly gone with water based stuff, but choose what ya will. The Seal Coat will prime for you. Foam brushes will give you a good finish. Look at Flo-trol for a retarder that will help level water based paints.
Bill

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#6 posted 01-01-2012 12:47 AM

Can you post some pictures? It would be much easier to give advice if we could see what you have.

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#7 posted 01-01-2012 12:58 AM

Distance shots or close up?

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#8 posted 01-01-2012 02:44 AM

Let’s start with distance and work in.

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#9 posted 01-01-2012 02:47 AM

If and when I do refacing for customers, I will pull the faceframe off and replace it. It is the only way to make them look proper. Other then that It is best to strip the cabinet faces and have them resprayed with a good finish.

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#10 posted 01-01-2012 06:18 AM

I don’t reface, though I’ve had alot of people ask me to.
Generally, what happens is you run into a box, that isn’t fit to reface in the first place, damaged by water, or just poor quality materials, and when you do something to the face frame, the box isn’t sound on it’s own, and won’t hold up.

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#11 posted 01-01-2012 01:36 PM

A low sheen topcoat will be more forgiving than high gloss, spray the doors if you can, If you can’t, foam rollers for oil based paint are good, and get a Purdy Monarch Elite paintbrush, the best paint brush you will ever own.

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#12 posted 01-01-2012 03:18 PM

Another idea would be to paint the frames and buy new doors and drawer fronts.

I kept the frames and ordered new doors/drawer fronts from Rawdoors. com

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/56981

They have Oak, Cherry, Maple etc.
Might be a nice contrast of paint and wood.

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#13 posted 01-01-2012 03:56 PM

If the case works are solid wood and in good shape, I’ve had good results at pulling the face frames replacing with the lumber of choice, and making new doors and drawers. Sand the interior if necessary and refinish.

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#14 posted 01-02-2012 02:15 AM

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Here an older pic of the kitchen.

When you guys say take off the face frames, you mean the part the doors are attached to, correct? I have some hard maple that would work well for a replacement…

Again, thank you all for the advice!

Milo

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#15 posted 01-02-2012 02:47 AM

Ok, I’m seeing full overlay slab doors on the uppers and what looks like raised panels on the bases.

Now, how about a full frame picture of one upper and another picture of a base cab.

Unless your faceframes are really beat up, I doubt if I would try to replace them. They’re probably glued on and aren’t coming off cleanly.

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