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cracknpop

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963 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: shaper spindle sanding

Local cabinet shop closing and offered me Grizzly 3HP shaper with complete fence and multiple spindles for $400. Can buy cutters at considerable discount too. I have already been looking at new router and lift to upgrade my current router in a TS extension but wonder if, instead this would be a good addition to to my growing tool collection. I just read the previous LJ posts on router vs shapers and appreciate the input. I still have a few questions…
1. Rail/Stile and tongue/groove sets – It looks like once one is set, you could quickly change to the other and it will be already set to match with very little height adjustment necessary. Is this true?

2. Grizzly shows a spiral straight edge cutter head – could this be used as a edge jointer? (I do not currently have a jointer)

3. Can bushings be added to bits for arch profiles on cabinet doors and raised panels?

4. Do they make a spindle sanding sleeve that works reasonably well for a shaper? (I don’t have a spindle sander yet either)

I am sure I will have more questions, but this is a start.
As always, thanks for sharing your thoughts and expertise.

-- Rick


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Grandpa

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#1 posted 963 days ago

I don’t think a spindle sander would work on a shaper because the spindle speed will probably be too high and you will experience burning. I do have a Grizzly catalog and I looked to see about this. There is a sanding spindle listed. hhhmmm The 3 hp shaper I see here is a G1026 and it sells for $1195This machine is 28×30. That is about the same foot print of one of the larger router tables. The cost of a good table and a big router for the table would be about this price ($400). This comes with 1/2, 3/4 and 1 inch spindles. IT has 7000 and 10,000 rpm speeds. It will require 220V. This is assuming we are looking at the same machine. I would have to consider this if I lived in your neighborhood.

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Loren

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#2 posted 963 days ago

1) yes
2) yes
3) yes
4) no – too fast.

the price is a good deal.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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#3 posted 963 days ago

Grandpa – you were looking at the same machine, except the one I looked at has a little dust on it. ;^)

-- Rick

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Grandpa

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#4 posted 963 days ago

Then go buy it before I call them…..LOL
My gut instinct is the machine runs too fast for a sander. Loren didn’t give a reason on that. I don’t know what he is thinks but he has more experience with those machine than Ii have. BTW I did try to edit and answer those questions you asked and this thing is not letting me edit tonight.

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cracknpop

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#5 posted 963 days ago

Loren – thanks for your reply
Grandpa – he has 7 more he is planning to auction…

-- Rick

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Grandpa

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#6 posted 963 days ago

Too far from Oklahoma or I might show up there. Western Oklahoma at that.

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#7 posted 963 days ago

I own that shaper and love it. I also utilize a 1 hp power feeder which I feel is a must with the shaper. But if you are a hobby person and will not use it as much as we use our shaper, then the power feeder may not be as necessary. The power feeder does make things easier and much safer.

I agree with the answers given to you. I will add that I have done some arched doors on our shaper and I have never used any bushings. Stile/rail and panel bits can be used with bearings that allow the work piece to ride on which is the way we do it when the fence has been removed from the table top.

The price is excellent. I hope it is still available for you when you go to get it.

-- Jerry Nettrour, San Antonio, www.topqualitycabinets.net

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canadianchips

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#8 posted 963 days ago

The price is excellent. I would not being concerned about trying to use this shaper as a multi purpose tool. I wish I lived closer and didn’t have to go through CUSTOMS !

-- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !"

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cracknpop

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#9 posted 871 days ago

I appreciated all the advice you shared. Sorry it has taken me this long to respond. I did buy the shaper, cleaned it up, shop wired with 220 outlets, and added a rolling base. Now to carve out some time to get started on the next project. Here’s a few pics.

-- Rick

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cracknpop

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#10 posted 819 days ago

Finally got to fire my shaper up… glue joint cutter sliced through 1” walnut like a hot knife through butter. So much quieter than my router. Can you see the big grin on my face. Can’t wait to try the rail and stile cutters this weekend. Very happy with this purchase. Thanks LJs for your advice.

-- Rick

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#11 posted 819 days ago

great buy.

just a word of caution – shapers with 3hp motors and large cutters can really grab the workpiece and kickback can be disastereous!!!

make sure you use proper sleds, or better yet – auto feed – these shapers have tremendous power, and holding the workpiece by hand might not be the best of ideas.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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