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Forum topic by widdle posted 12-30-2011 07:25 PM 2281 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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widdle

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12-30-2011 07:25 PM

Topic tags/keywords: router lift

Can someone give me a heads up on the benefits of a good router lift as opposed to a triton type router for new router table ..


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Loren

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#1 posted 12-30-2011 07:54 PM

The Milwaukee routers have a hole in the base that allows
adjustment through the table. Simple, inexpensive solution -
a fixed-base router with a lift system built in.

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#2 posted 12-30-2011 08:05 PM

The answer is first precision and, second, quick bit changes.

At one time, I used a Porter-Cable 890 in my router table and it allowed me to adjust my router height from above the table, but it was a very crude and imprecise height adjustment. Furthermore, bringing the router up for an above the table bit exchange was a tedious process.

I bought a Woodpecker PRL-V2. What a difference!! Precise, micro adjustment of the bit height is a breeze. Furthermore, I can pop the router to the top, change the bit quickly and drop the router back into position in only a few seconds. I’m ready to race anyone on bit changes.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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widdle

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#3 posted 12-30-2011 08:11 PM

Thanks guys..
Rich, soo the triton or milwaukee doesnt do the same thing ?

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#4 posted 12-30-2011 08:38 PM

I’ve got the Triton in my router table and I’ve used the popular lifts. My Trion has a tremendous amount of slop. It’s pretty easy to overcome; you just have to make sure the machine totally drops. My choice is clearly a router raiser with a big fat PC motor in it. But the price gets up there pretty quick.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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live4ever

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#5 posted 12-30-2011 08:43 PM

The Triton does the same things. The bit height changing might not be as precise as a good lift, but it’s pretty darn close. The bit changing is great. I have a Triton in my table and figured I’d upgrade to a different router and lift if needed. So far it’s been great and kept me from lusting after a lift. At $200 the 3hp Triton is a steal right now.

-- Optimists are usually disappointed. Pessimists are either right or pleasantly surprised. I tend to be a disappointed pessimist.

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widdle

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#6 posted 12-30-2011 08:49 PM

Thanks.. good stuff, trying to avoid cheap being expensive and wanting to upgrade.

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live4ever

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#7 posted 12-30-2011 10:12 PM

On a random sidenote, I’ve come to the opinion that precision/repeatability of the fence (e.g. Incra system) is more useful than precision (over a decent enough router e.g. Triton) of the bit height, at least for me. My dollars went a lot farther investing in the Incra router fence system rather than a lift.

-- Optimists are usually disappointed. Pessimists are either right or pleasantly surprised. I tend to be a disappointed pessimist.

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#8 posted 12-30-2011 10:12 PM

HI. About 5 years ago I decided to purchase a router lift and table to supplement my plunge routers , after a few months of research… I fell in love with the Bench Dog 40-031/7518 ProMax Left with a Porter Cable adjustable speed router. The Bench Dog allows the motor to go fully above the table, alas it requires the removal of the bit insert.. two small screws, but worht the extra effort. The micro adjustment is just awesome and the fence system makes me very happy. The biggest issue is the huge price tag, but I got the top extension and I have not regretted it for a moment. The table does things I just can not accomplish for small tasks, special moments and long dado runs.

-- " 'Truth' is like a beautiful flower, unique to each plant and to the season it blossoms ... 'Fact' is the root and leaf, allowing the plant grow and bloom again."

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#9 posted 12-30-2011 10:24 PM

I have used the Jessem router lifts (the original lift) for many years, well made, easy to adjust, I would highly recommend them!

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

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widdle

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#10 posted 12-30-2011 10:39 PM

Thanks guys..Bertha’s mention of the word “slop” rings loud..

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Bertha

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#11 posted 12-30-2011 11:04 PM

^Well, perhaps I should have used a different term. Here’s mine:

I’ve got a digital meter on it and I always use test cuts. Once the lever is locked, it’s not going anywhere. I think the “slop” is more when you’ve got the shaft unlocked. If you’re careful that the motor is seated well with the lever unlocked, you shouldn’t have a problem. I’ve got a lot of routers and this one is my favorite so far under the table. At 3+hp and soft start, it’s plenty powerful.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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Greg..the Cajun Wood Artist

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#12 posted 12-31-2011 12:41 AM

I have a jessem master Lift and a Jessem Master Lift II. Both are great and precise with no slop. I have a Bosch 1617 in one and a PC 3815 in the other.

-- Each step of every Wood Art project I design and build is considered my masterpieceā€¦ because I want the finished product to reflect the quality and creativeness of my work

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HorizontalMike

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#13 posted 12-31-2011 02:13 AM

The real slop in my Triton router went AWAY when I got the metal gear upgrade. I reviewed that upgrade here:
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/1983

Sure, you can spend 2 to 3 times the $179 that I spent to get a router Plus the lift, but why? If you got the big bucks then go for it. If you don’t then this is your best alternative for the money.

After using this router for a while I do have to say the the snazzy 1 1/4in hose DC is a farce. Looks great but not very useful IRL. However, the above table crank is reliable to 1/128in if you refust to do ANY test cuts. ;-)

ON THE OTHER HAND:
The 2 1/4hp Tirton I put in my mortising machine works like a champ and I used an alternative DC system that I developed that collect ~80-90% of the dust.

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/56897

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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