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helluvawreck

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12-28-2011 03:27 PM

Topic tags/keywords: incra build it system incra ts ls joinery system

INCRA TS-LS Joinery System

I was just wondering if any of you use this system or a similar system for your table saw?

I’ve been working on my shop for the last month and trying to figure out how to organize it better but also how to beef up it’s capabilities and efficiency. I want to start making some nice boxes and other things that I can use in conjunction with my hand carving.

I would appreciate any response.

Last week I posed this question about the Incra build it system without any response. I’m still interested in that post as well.

I’m just asking for a little input from you Lumberjocks. Thanks.

helluvawreck

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#1 posted 12-28-2011 03:34 PM

I have one and love it. It does take a while to get used to it to appreciate it fully. Try to watch some of the videos Incra has.

The guy doing the videos is Mark. Wonderfully nice fellow and I have called Incra and talked to him and his help and customer service acumen are second to none.

Every Incra tool I own works great. Feel free to PM me if you have any specific questions. Scott

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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#2 posted 12-28-2011 03:38 PM

Hey Helluva,

I have this system and love it. Go look at my last project, that was all done on the incra. I have not seen any drawbacks to it as of yet and seems each time I use it I find something else I like about it. I would highly recommend this thing to anybody.

ps your carvings are going great, my learning curve is much slower than yours! I had missed some of them, took a little break from LJs to get away from the crap.

Hope your doing well

Steve

-- StevieP ~ Micheal Tompkins - you were not here on earth long but left a giant mark on us. RIP Brother

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#3 posted 12-28-2011 04:28 PM

Rocky, What do you think about the durability of this unit? Do you use this unit with a router mounted in the table saw top as well?

Stevie, that last project of yours looks quite intriguing. Did you cut the box joints with the system? Have you ever used it for dovetails? What do you think about the durability of the system?

helluvawreck

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-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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#4 posted 12-28-2011 04:36 PM

Actually I have a seperate router table with an Incra that is on wheels to free up floor space. It’s a long story.

I watched the videos and it seems very capable using it that way…I think you need the super system to use the TS-LS as a router fence as well or you would be exchanging base fences all the time. because the table saw fence does not have clearance for the bit.

The micro adjustment is splendid when doing things like dados and rabbets. Also, cutting thin strips on the outside of the blade works perfectly.

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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#5 posted 12-28-2011 05:01 PM

Rocky, I just watched the following videos about this system and it’s capabilities do look quite amazing.

http://www.incrementaltools.com/INCRA_TS_LS_Joinery_System_32_Range_p/ls32-ts-wf.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1k-KqhSvL0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOezbeBGTZo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtTIKRjvgQo&feature=related

The reason that I would need the router mounted to my table saw would be that my shop is not very large.

I noticed in one of the videos that the demonstrator guy took the whole rig off of the saw in case you needed to hang it on the wall to do something else with the saw.

It would seem that if you had a separate router table with rails that you would be able to use the same positioner with either the table saw or the separate router table assuming the rails were the same distance apart. Is that correct?

helluvawreck

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-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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#6 posted 12-28-2011 05:17 PM

All you would need is the ” super system” router fence that will attach to the TS – LS fence and you are ready to go. Add a lift to the left side of your table saw and you have it.

As an fyi the router table fence does not have rails when using a stand alone router table…the positioner is bolted on.

PM me if I made it more confusing.

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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#7 posted 12-28-2011 05:43 PM

Helluvawreck, +1 to the above. The only negative I’ve found with mine is how far the positioner extends out from the fence. It takes up a lot of room. -Jack

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#8 posted 12-28-2011 05:48 PM

Jack is telling the truth..you do need some clearance (clarence).

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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#9 posted 12-28-2011 06:44 PM

I appreciate all of your responses. I just read these reviews on Lumberjocks in case anyone is interested I thought that I would post these links here:

http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/1092
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/1066
http://lumberjocks.com/reviews/140

It sounds like this system will do two things: make your table saw more efficient and make your table saw more accurate. It also sounds like it is durable.

Thanks fellas.

helluvawreck

https://woodworkingexpo.wordpress.com

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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#10 posted 12-28-2011 06:49 PM

I’ve had this thing in my Amazon cart for what feels like years. I guess none of my friends/relatives check my cart, lol. I think it’s probably like the original Incra jig, just on steroids. I imagine the learning curve to be quite high but the work that comes out of it is really amazing. If I see a project with really tight tolerances, I’ll usually click on the LJ’s workshop, and this jig is often there. Good luck!

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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helluvawreck

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#11 posted 12-28-2011 07:21 PM

Al, I have one big problem right now. My tool money jar is depleted right now. :-|

helluvawreck

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-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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#12 posted 12-28-2011 07:24 PM

Yeah, that system is for a day you’re flush. Off topic but I was admiring your main toolbox contents. Who makes your fillister/combo?

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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helluvawreck

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#13 posted 12-28-2011 07:43 PM

Are you talking about the Record combination plane? That was one of the tools that I bought 40 years ago a few months after I married my wife. I spent a $1000 on my first set of tools and still have every one of them. Of course a $1000 went a lot further back in 1971 than it does now. Yep, that was a year or so before old Nixon took us completely off the gold system. You know, Al, when I was a kid we had two movie theatres in our town. On a Saturday it cost 15 cents to get into one of them and 25 cents to get into the other. Throw in a dime and you had a big coke and some candy to chew on. When I got married my wife and I bought a weeks worth of groceries for 17 bucks. I don’t remember but I think gas was 25 cents. I worked on a horse farm in the summer and got $40 a week in high school. That bought a lot of stuff. My first factory job paid 80 bucks a week.
In this day and time money don’t go anywhere. It’s nothing but fiat paper.

helluvawreck

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-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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#14 posted 12-28-2011 07:48 PM

Helluvawreck, You might like Mark Colan's blog series. He installed an extension table, router table and a Delta Uniguard off the Incra side rails. He also used UHMW tape where the base clamps ride on the rails, a good tip. -Jack

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#15 posted 12-28-2011 08:11 PM

Helluva

I wanted to do some boxes with tight tolerances. Got the ultra lite system. It is in my reviews. I would post the link but am on my Ipad at the moment.

I’ve had my eye on the TS LS system for somr time now. Keep an eye on the specials and get yourself on the email list from Incra. They go on sale now and again for $269 or so. Sometimes they have free shipping.

One day I WILL have one on my saw. If you get one be sure to keep your stock fence. That way if you upgrade the saw, you can keep the Incra.

-- Mike.... West Virginia. "Man is a tool using animal. Without tools he is nothing, with tools he is all.". T Carlyle

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