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Forum topic by austinrookie posted 05-09-2008 12:17 AM 1342 views 1 time favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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austinrookie

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05-09-2008 12:17 AM

Is there anything out there that I can either make or buy that will closely match the wood I will be working with(right now it is QSWO, Cherry and maple in the very near future). I have tried the stuff they sell in the big box stores and some of the mom and pop stores, but nothing comes close. I have tried mixing dust from sanding with glue but I am still not satisfied with the look. I don’t know if I am using the right proportions to get the look I want, I would abe happy if it’s even close. Any tricks tips or sources will be greatly appreciated…

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Peter Oxley

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#1 posted 05-09-2008 01:05 AM

If you are mixing dust with glue (I think the mix is called “dookie shmutz”), you obviously want the same species of dust as the wood you are filling. Add dust to the glue until you have the consistency of peanut butter – pretty thick. Also, if you are staining your wood, you might try pre-coloring your dookie shmutz. I usually only fill pretty small flaws, so the filler isn’t very noticable. For larger flaws/holes you may have to resort to a patch to really hide it.

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teenagewoodworker

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#2 posted 05-09-2008 01:33 AM

you might want to try a product called timber mate. It is made out of sawdust and is water based, so you can use it as a natural wood filler and since it is water based you can finish on it. also you can thin it for use as a pore filler. I believe that Woodcraft carries it.

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BertJ

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#3 posted 05-09-2008 01:34 AM

Hi neighbor! (I live in Wimberley, just about 30 miles south of Austin.)

Your question is very challenging to answer because there are many “tricks” that various woodworkers use for different situations. One infamous (and anonymous) quote goes something like this: “The difference between an amateur woodworker and a professional is the pro knows how to hide his mistakes.”

Over the past six years or so I have acquired a large selection of fillers, dyes, stains, colored pens, rock putty, colored waxes—the list seems endless. Bottom line, it is a trial-and-error process to learn what will work best, and not two woods will react equally to the same stain/dye/filler treatment.

Give a shout some weekend and I’ll give you a short tutorial in my shop. Bring your project and we’ll try to fix it.

Send an email to me and I’ll respond with my phone number.

Bert

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hokieman

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#4 posted 05-09-2008 02:55 AM

I don’t know why you would have to fill the grain on a closed grain wood like cherry or maple but in any event here are some ideas.

Three options that I have used. Get some Danish Oil and lay it on thick to the wood. Then get some 320 wet and dry sand paper and wet sand the wood which will make a sawdust slurry. Leave the slurry on the wood. Once you work up enough slurry, take a cloth and wipe ACROSS the grain so you fill the pores. Let is sit for 24 hours then apply your top coat.

The other option is to coat with boiled linseed oil then sprinkle 4F pumice on the wet wood. Wipe across the grain to pack the pores. Let is sit over night and add the top coat.

Last option. mix up a mixture of plaster of paris. Use a clean rag and apply a coat of P of P on the wood. Let it dry overnight. Sand with the grain until smooth. Check to see that all the pores are filled. If not reapply the P of P and do all this overagain. Once smooth and the pores are all filled, finish with the boiled linseed oil. The oil will turn the P of P translucent. Looks surprisingly good. Then apply your favorite top coat.

If you are talking about filling nail holes or filling cracks or something like that, try Famowood.

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tenontim

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#5 posted 05-09-2008 03:01 AM

Famowood makes an Oak wood putty that is very close in color to white oak. You have to remember all of the techniques and the fillers are for small imperfections. Anything large and you’re looking at recreating the grain pattern, etc. Also this filler matches the wood with a clear finish on it. The more stain you put on the more it’s going to show up.

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blackcherry

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#6 posted 05-09-2008 04:27 AM

One of my favorites wood filler is a product by Ben Moore…Wood Grain Filler and its well worth it…you can use it straight or with a stain added to it…just apply like paste wax with a terry cloth or cheese cloth wiping across the grain let dry and lightly sand…if a secound coat is needed go for it….it comes in 8oz, and 16 oz cans… it has the Blkcherry seal of approval….Blkcherry

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#7 posted 05-10-2008 12:12 PM

Austin I’ve got to agree with all these guys, they are all right. You just have to find what works for you. If its a big bong you’re gonna have to make a wooden patch for the hole like an inlay. Otherwise personally if it is’nt to big I prefer Timbermate. Actually made in Australia, but they have such an array of colors that you can mix and match and the stuff is great for filling pores. This stuff won’t freeze, dry out, discolor, and if you don’t like it just take some water on your finger and rub it off. Once it sets you can sand it paint it stain it. It is pretty good stuff. They use it mostly for filling pores in floors, but woodworkers caught on and another market opened up for it. But Austinrookie the best bet is sanding it out with a slurry of linseed oil or danish oil and sandpaper a slurry and fill it that way. Like I said you’ll find your favorite way. Everyone does. as you can see. mike

-- (You just have to please the man in the Mirror) Mike from Michigan -

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CharlesNeil

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#8 posted 05-10-2008 10:39 PM

yep…Timbermate ...woodcraft only carries the tint base….....its a silica based vs a gypsum based and i have found it to not only match the wood but takes stain and dyes just like wood…...check out their web site for where to buy…....( silica is basically sand, so it doesnt shrink ) no kidding….....

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mrtrim

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#9 posted 05-10-2008 10:44 PM

i took a look im going to try some

http://www.timbermate.com/home

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