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richgreer

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12-20-2011 08:23 PM

I know several people that I consider to be woodworkers first with some artistic talent. I include myself in that category. I also know at least one person who I consider to be an artist first with some good woodworking skills.

This got me wondering. Can you quantify the degree to which you think you are an artist or a woodworker?

I will say that I am (at least in my own mind) 25% artist and 75% woodworker. My guess is that most of you are even more woodworker and less artist than me, but I expect there will be some (perhaps many) who are more artist and less woodworker than me. Regardless, this could be an interesting topic.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.


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TCCcabinetmaker

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#1 posted 12-20-2011 08:29 PM

There is an old word that is not used anymore, artisan. It’s a term that means both artist and worker. In the past it was used to describe people who built anything from art, to structures to you name it.

I would like to consider myself an artisan carpenter, simply because I dont’ always do just flat boards strung together, but can add other touches to things. But I’d have to say sometimes I”m as much artist as woodworker, and other times just doing the woodwork.

-- The mark of a good carpenter is not how few mistakes he makes, but rather how well he fixes them.

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#2 posted 12-20-2011 08:30 PM

Rich, I consider myself to be a woodworker with some artistic talent. However, I’m certainly not an artist.

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#3 posted 12-20-2011 08:33 PM

At this point in my learning curve I consider myself more of powder post beetle than either a wood worker or an artist.

I make lots of sawdust but accomplish very little.

-- Improvise.... Adapt...... Overcome!

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#4 posted 12-20-2011 08:36 PM

I tend to call myself a “hack” or a wood butcher, Rich, but … you know … I aspire to be something more ;-)

-- -- Neil

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#5 posted 12-20-2011 08:39 PM

I like to think of myself as an artist. A lot of the time what I am creating is something from my head, hands and heart, It is truly my creation. Those days I am an artist.

-- ----- www.KNWoodworking.com ----- --

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#6 posted 12-20-2011 08:48 PM

Rich,
The fact that you want to quantify it tells us that, like me, you are first a craftsman.
I identify with designer, draftsman, craftsman, and artisan.

-- Willie, Washington "If You Choose Not To Decide, You Still Have Made a Choice" - Rush

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#7 posted 12-20-2011 08:48 PM

10% artist
40% machine mechanic
50% woodworker

-- Dan Coleman, retired Welding Inspector and past IA Teacher

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#8 posted 12-20-2011 08:51 PM

MrsN gave us a bit of a definition of an artist (versus woodworker). Like her, I never use plans and I, effectively, design in my head. Working through the design issues and producing something unique is a big part of the fun.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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Don W

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#9 posted 12-20-2011 09:02 PM

I say I’m a woodworker but I don’t really believe it. I would never call myself an artist, or pretend to have any artistic qualities. I can however make lots of noise, produce sawdust like the dickens and manage to get a pile of shavings i need to pick up with a scoop shovel. I will occasionally produce a decent piece of woodworking despite myself.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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#10 posted 12-20-2011 09:08 PM

Hello Richgreer

For me it’s simple

The only limit is the mind

so I think I’m an artist and I try to be a woodworker !!!

-- Diggerjack-France ---The only limit is the limit of the mind and the mind has no limit

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#11 posted 12-20-2011 09:11 PM

In practice more woodworker than artist though I must say if left to my own designs I wood be working towards artisan.

-- Shameless - Winner of two Stumpy Nubs Awards

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#12 posted 12-20-2011 09:15 PM

My wife is a good example – she is not an artist but her internal resources make her work very valuable. Technical skills can surpass artistic creativity but sometimes creativity cannot master technical skills. Just my thought.

-- http://www.jordanstraker.com

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Greg..the Cajun Box Sculptor

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#13 posted 12-21-2011 12:09 AM

After 50+ years of making sawdust I consider myself a termite.

-- We all must start somewhere in our journey of doing what we love to do.

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#14 posted 12-21-2011 12:27 AM

99% Woodworker 1% artist -
I like to incorporate artistic elements, and appreciate the aesthetic aspects of creating –
But at the end of the day, what I make “Needs” to fulfil some function – storage, seating, keepsake, wearable etc.

never made something that was JUST for lookin’ at.

-- "If we did all the things we are capable of doing, we would literally astonish ourselves." Edison

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#15 posted 12-21-2011 12:35 AM

At work (daily bread kind) I am an engineer,I take science and apply it to getting out of doing work.
In the shop, I am an artisan, I try to make things with a sense of craftsmenship and style or style with a function.
On stage acting , I am an artist in a straight jacket imposed by the director, behind the bass I am an artist.

The wood is the medium a few of the projects I see here are art, most of them are crafts. I tend to agree that following a set of plans is a craft, drawing the plans is engineering, creating the idea is the art.

-- My mother named me Hamilton, I have been trying to earn my nickname ever since.

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