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Forum topic by Iggles88 posted 12-19-2011 06:15 AM 838 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Iggles88

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12-19-2011 06:15 AM

Hey guys, This weekend I had a problem with my jointer (fence bent) thankfully I was able to return it for a full refund and since it was my second one of that model and second that I returned I just took the money and figured I’d get a nicer one later on. As of right now I’m seriously considering just buying a planer dewalt dw734, and waiting to get the jointer until I can save the money (probably about a month and a half.) I have looked at the 10” jet jointer/planer combo…..it received mixed reviews but it has very small infeed/out feed tables. My question is should I just go with the planer now and just use a planer sled until I can get the jointer or should I go with the combo and focus my money on a drill press or router table. I’m new to woodworking my plan is to build furniture for my house and friends and family, that’s why the smaller infeed out feed tables could be a problem…....if I do get the planer now, the jointer I’m looking to buy Is a 6” jet jointer I believe it’s about 700. Before anyone tells me to move up to an 8” I’m stretching it going for the 700 6” jointer so spending more isn’t really an option. Im a young kid just getting on my feet out on my own so money is tight right now.


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Loren

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#1 posted 12-19-2011 06:24 AM

You don’t need a drill press and you can make your own router table
out of scrap.

Are you in an isolated area where buying a used jointer off ebay or Craigslist
is not an option?

Consumer woodworking machinery loses close to half its retail value
when it goes to the used market, so if you want to stretch your budget,
buy used and sell when you want to upgrade and buy used again.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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Iggles88

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#2 posted 12-19-2011 06:34 AM

I don’t need a drill press but it’s definitely nice to have, and I could make a router table but my abilities aren’t there yet, I don’t like to buy used tools, i would like to know that I am getting a brand new tool and that if something goes wrong it can go back, there’s also no way to tell how a tool has been treated no matter how good it looks…..id rather wait to get a new one then buy something I’m not sure of because it’s cheaper. Whatever I buy I need to last me, right now the only tools I want but don’t have are planer, jointer, bandsaw, drill press, router table. I can make do without these tools but I would much rather have them and I’m just trying to figure out the best way to go about it.

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schuft

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#3 posted 12-19-2011 07:18 AM

Just a quick note: router tables are very easy. My first real woodworking project was a router table. It was nothing but a flat surface (3/4” melamine on top of 3/4” plywood) supported by a plywood box. All made from scrap. Only expense was the special glue for laminating the melamine to plywood. Oh and I spent another $30 for a fancy power switch from Rockler. Believe me: if I can do it, anyone can.

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Iggles88

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#4 posted 12-19-2011 07:26 AM

Schuft, I do think I could build a simple router table but if I’m going to build one I’d want to build the table that I pictured myself having. Drawers for storage and just much more then a simple router table to get me by….I have been fighting myself on whether to buy one or wait and just build one and I’m still not sure what to do so I’ll probably hold off for now and focus on a jointer…...I’m looking at a grizzly jointer but I have heard bad things about they’re shipping process and have heard of things arriving damaged. Quick side note. I bought a track saw from dynamitetoolco.com and the track for the saw came bent like a V. I couldn’t believe that they would send something like that, I don’t know who bent it them or ups but it was completely unacceptable, ill never buy from them again

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willie

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#5 posted 12-19-2011 07:41 AM

I filled my shop with old, used tools. Most from the sixties and fifties. My handtools are just about all older than me. I have planes and chisels 100 years old and more, they have proven they can last. Besides the money I saved, I think the quality of the tools is much better. I haven’t had near as much trouble from my old tools as my new ones. Most of the old tools can be fixed, not so with some of the new ones. I am willing to give up all the frills and electronics that now control everything we own in order to own tools that I understand, can fix and use without a degree in engineering. I prefer things to be simple and uncomplicated. It is possible to buy tools cheaply without ending up with a bunch of cheap tools. It takes time and some work but it can be done. It can be pretty rewarding, especially when you’re on a limited budget, to put together complete shop that is capable of producing the same quality work as shops costing much more. Regardless of cost, the best tools in the world are worthless in the hands of someone that doesn’t know how to use them. I know it works for me. I think I enjoy the hunt for tools as much as using them!

-- Every day above ground is a good day!!!

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#6 posted 12-22-2011 04:34 PM

What do you think you will need a planer for? Unless you’re planing rough cut lumber or glued up panels most lumber is sufficently planed that it can be sanded smooth. A jointer in indespensible for woodworking, you need straight smooth edges and a joiner’s about the only way to accomplish that.

I’ve been using a 6” Powermatic for over 10 years in my cabinet shop and I can’t thing of a single time I’ve used more than 1 1/2 ” of the cutter, mostly just 3/4”. Jet and Powermatic are basiclly the same machine.

A planer is a nice machine to have if you are going to justify it’s cost. I’ve had a Powermatic 15” about as long as the joiner and I mainly only use it to plane down cabinet door panels before running them through the drum sander. I can order my stock planed for just a few cents more than unplaned, isn’t worth the time for me to plane it. I do order it oversize because their planer leaves a lot ot be desired for a finish.

If money is limited, and whose isn’t these days, I would spring for a good joiner and just buy stock that doesn’t need planing for now. Later on if you still feel the need you can get one and you’ll have 2 quality machines. Jusy MHO.

Rick

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