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TDog77

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934 days ago

So my wifey got a little involved in the table saw research and really really likes the idea of the Sawstop. In order for me to get the 3 horse model I would need to dump about 3,000 on it and am concerned about how much I am paying just for the flesh feature. I could get a unisaw or something similar for that cost and if I don’t get the sawstop I would actually get a lower cost Grizzly and spend more on the other tools I need but do any of you feel that the quality of “non flesh detection features” on the sawstop match other saws in that price category.


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Loren

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#1 posted 934 days ago

You could get a compact slider for about the same,
e.g. the Grizzly G0623X.

Hands-down I prefer a slider to an American style saw
like the saw stop. Sliders have their own safety benefits as well.

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MoshupTrail

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#2 posted 934 days ago

But the issue is not cost – not for your wife. The issue is, how much is a missing finger or two worth? What you will be paying for is a little peace of mind for her. Call it an insurance policy. I have used a Sawstop and it’s an excellent saw. Sure, there’s a premium over other saws of equivalent quality, but I would say the Sawstop is in the top group to begin with. So if you can swing the $$ go with it!

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fredf

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#3 posted 934 days ago

I agree with MoshupTrail— tools are risky enough, throw in a moments distraction and it could get very painful for you and for your wallet. I would imagine that the out of pocket expenses on a shop accident would exceed the 3k for the Sawstop.

Not having to listen to “I told you so” : Priceless

I think this is a good time to listen to your wife :-)

fred

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TDog77

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#4 posted 934 days ago

I looked at that hammer drooling but wonder how much it is for the miter guide, outrigger and shipping. Is that one of those deals that is kind or running most the time or is it that good of a buy.

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#5 posted 934 days ago

I have a saw stop and it’s worth every penny to me. It’s a great saw even without the fleshy feature. And as Fred said – is the “I told you so” from your wife worth it or not. People have been using table saws a long time and most everyone escapes with all ten fingers – but it’s an insurance policy. Simple as that. You only hear about the horror stories of table saws and they do happen – but you never hear about the guy that built an entire set of cabinets using a table saw and ended the project with all ten fingers.

It all comes down to what you can justify to yourself. With my personal health issues the saw stop is a must. I wish they’d come out with the technology on band saws and jointers – I’d be first in line.

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B0b

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#6 posted 934 days ago

I have done a ton of research on this, and the talking heads agree that the sawstop is on par with saws within its price range. (Perhaps slightly more expensive though.) I am currently working on my brother’s uni-saw which is fantastic, but the only reason I would not buy a sawstop is if I find a used saw much cheaper, and I might have found one for free. If I used the saw full time for a living, I would definitely buy a sawstop.

That being said, I hear the lawyer who started Sawstop is a jerk, so I hate putting money in his pocket, but sometimes even a jerk has something good to contribute.

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a1Jim

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#7 posted 934 days ago

I’ve used one and feel they are a high quality saws. plus you get the safety factor that other saws don’t have.

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TDog77

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#8 posted 934 days ago

” I hear the lawyer who started Sawstop is a jerk”

Quite presumptuous as I personally have never met a lawyer that is not just peaches and cream….

Honestly though I have read a few things that I don’t like that they are doing as far as public character is concerned but they have themselves a pretty nice niche and I think I might pull the trigger on one regardless. I really consider myself a man of principle but most of what I have read is not much evidence and more he said she said so I will look past it for now. My bigger concern is how to get the other tools that I need now that my tablesaw is eating a larger chunk then originally planned. Funny how that happens. It won’t be as hard to talk the wife into more money since I am getting a “safer” saw….perfect.

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a1Jim

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#9 posted 934 days ago

It’s spendy Tdog but so is hand surgery. This saw should last for years and years. Since the wife want’s you to buy the SAW Stop she has to know you need a bigger tool budget . :))

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#10 posted 934 days ago

I had two Unisaws. Traded the older one in on the $3000 Saw Stop. http://www.sawstop.com/products/professional-cabinet-saw/
What I got? 52” ripping capacity; Biesmeyer clone rip fence. Left tilt blade. 3 HP. Delivery and Setup.

The machine is superior to the ‘64 Unisaw, and at the least equal to the 2001 Unisaw. The Trunions are well machined and the blade tilts and raises/lowers perfect. The “safety” bypass is a little confusing, but can be turned off. I have chosen to NOT use this saw for dado’s, as I didn’t want to buy the “dado” cartridge or to have to bypass the safety features, but, as I said, I have the privilige of having another saw to do this operation on.

I recommend this saw to anyone exclusively on its fit and finish. It is a very precise machine. The safety is just a tremendous bonus.

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TDog77

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#11 posted 934 days ago

That is bold praise Uncle, thank you.

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#12 posted 934 days ago

Depends…the contractor saw cost what many new 3hp cabinet saws cost. The actual guts of the saw are well made, but the very basic unit comes with steel wings and a sort of lame fence, and it still has the drawbacks of any contractor saw with an outboard motor….you’re mostly paying for the safety device. As you work your way up to their top model, you get a heck of a saw and the safety feature.

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TDog77

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#13 posted 934 days ago

Knotscott, I would be getting the 3 Horse Cabinet saw for around 3,000.

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knotscott

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#14 posted 934 days ago

That’d probably be their “Professional” cabinet saw, as opposed to their “industrial” cabinet saw. I think that one has table mounted trunnions and is more of a hybrid style “cabinet” saw, but I’m sure it’s well made. Other $3000 industrial saws like the General 650 or new Unisaw have cabinet mounted trunnions and are more similar to the SawStop “Industrial” saw for $3900. That safety device isn’t cheap. That doesn’t mean you won’t be pleased with it…it’s a very nice saw, has the safety feature, good dust collection, nice fence, good power, cast wings, etc.

There are probably some SS PCS owners here who could chime in.

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Lifesaver2000

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#15 posted 934 days ago

If you go to the Sawstop website and download the manual for the 3hp Professional Cabinet Saw PCS31230, the alignment procedure on page 65 says that to align the blade to the miter slot, you have to loosen the four bolts that hold the table to the cabinet.

I would say the 3hp PCS must have cabinet mounted trunnions if that is the correct procedure for alignment. I haven’t looked at the 1.75hp saw manual, since it isn’t the subject of this discussion.

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