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12-18-2011 03:35 PM

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Good morning jocks, I have one of these which I got for doing someone a favor but don’t really know anything about using it. My question which I’m sure will turn into more is, I would like to turn some of the wonderful little Christmas ornaments I have seen here, and don’t have a 3 or 4 jaw chuck on this unit, is there anyway I can try making the icicle type ones without one? Also are there any real good beginner how to videos on line that I should watch for general lathe techniques? See I told it would turn into more than one.

-- ***Pat*** Rookie woodworker looking for an education!!!


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#1 posted 12-18-2011 04:12 PM

Brian Havens did an interesting video on this. Take a look at http://lumberjocks.com/projects/57125

-- John from Horse Shoe

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#2 posted 12-18-2011 07:57 PM

You can come close to those ornaments just turning the wood between the live and dead centers as a
spindle turning, and I would suggest doing this as a starting exercise, to learn how to use the tools. Just
google woodturning videos and you will have enough to enjoy for a while, the youtube ones are free, and
I can remember viewing a couple of videos here on LUMBERJOCKS. Hope you have lots of fun with that
lathe.

-- As ever, Gus-the 75 yr young apprentice carpenter

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#3 posted 12-20-2011 12:48 AM

@John, thanks for the link will check it out.

@Gus, will give that a try, is there a special way to search for videos on Lumberjocks? Thanks

Gus, I’m wondering will this jaw work with this lathe?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Craftsman-Atlas-Dunlap-109-Metal-Lathe-4-4-Jaw-Reversing-Chuck-6-618-Lathe-/150721036205?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2317ac7fad

-- ***Pat*** Rookie woodworker looking for an education!!!

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#4 posted 12-20-2011 01:26 AM

Pat—You might want to check out Eddie Castelin’s videos on YouTube … this is one of his recent offerings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCmvsjCo7mk

You’ll find “Cap’n Eddie” to be an engaging guy, his videos are entertaining, and if you have a question, a note to eddiecastelin@cox.net will usually get a prompt and useful response. His website ( http://www.eddiecastelin.com ) also has a good deal of good info.

As for the chuck, the chuck you pointed to is for a metal lathe … may or may not fit the lathe you have. You can buy a chuck that will work (from PSI) for under $100.00.

I looked up the specs on the Delta 46-250 … Headstock Spindle: 1 in. by 8-tpi threads, #2 Morse taper; Tailstock Spindle: #2 Morse taper, 1-1/2 in. travel.

Happy Turning!

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#5 posted 12-20-2011 04:59 PM

The Dane answered the important point, your lathe headstock has a 1” diameter, 8 thread per inch
headstock spindle, for any chuck to fit onto it, it must have a matching female thread. The chuck
you showed would require an adapter, which might cost more than chuck, as he mentioned, you can
buy a chuck from PSI (or one of many other scources). If you watched the video, Eddie Castelin was
using a ONE WAY chuck which is regarded as top of the line and expensive. Also that metal lathe
chuck is not self centering, that means you have to tighten up the jaws independently, and while for
an experienced metal lathe operator, that is a simple operation, for most wood lathe operators, it is a
pain in the tush. I have the identical chuck and it comes in handy for odd jobs, but it is not one that
I use on a regular basis. What you would want as a starting chuck, is a self centering chuck, that is
when you turn one tightening mechanism, all the jaws move at the same time and grip equally on a
common center. I would concentrate more on spindle turning to start with and pay close attention to
remarks like Eddie’s about use a gouge and how you place the surface of the gouge on the wood when
you are using it to prevent it from hanging up on the wood, damaging wood and possibly yourself. Start
and proceed slowly and carefully, it will take time, but you will become better with practice and enjoy a
wonderful hobby without hurting yourself. I know the Marines claim “Pain is weakness leaving the body.”
but that does not apply to woodworking, where pain can equal expensive damage and time away from
a wonderful hobby. Hope you have many happy hours with a wonderful pastime.
To search for videos, go to the search box, on the upper right hand part of the screen and type in the
type of video you want, like woodturning video, and it should bring up results.

-- As ever, Gus-the 75 yr young apprentice carpenter

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#6 posted 12-20-2011 05:58 PM

Pat—I think for a beginner, Penn State’s “Utility Grip 4 Jaw Chrome Lathe Chuck” is a decent choice ( http://www.pennstateind.com/store/CUG3418CCX.html ) .. it is on sale now for $90, comes with some nice accessories, and will screw directly onto the headstock spindle of your lathe.

There are many who advise buying a first class chuck (like the OneWay, Vicmarc, etc. products). The thinking is that if you buy the best right away, you won’t be buying others later.

As a beginner, my strategy was just the opposite … I figured an economy chuck like PSI’s would get me started and help me acquire enough experience to make an informed judgment later. And, if I decided turning wasn’t really my thing, I would have less money invested.

Well, turning is turning out to be my thing (pun intended). And I still think the PSI was a good investment.

At sometime in the not too far distant future (as soon as SWMBO isn’t looking!), I will be ordering either a OneWay Talon or OneWay Stronghold chuck. When I christen the OneWay, the PSI economy chuck will have the Jumbo (Cole-style) Jaws that came with it permanently installed. Changing jaws can be a PITA, and a lot of the guys in my club have two or more chucks for precisely that reason.

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#7 posted 12-21-2011 12:29 AM

Guys, fantastic info. I got one of those chucks in my basket already and was wondering if this drill bit tailstock is the right one for my midi? It says it for Delta and Jet. I think I got it, does #2 MT mean #2 Morse taper? If so then its the one I want.
http://www.pennstateind.com/store/TM32.html
Gus, I was in the Air Force so I don’t have to worry about what the Marines say! LOL

-- ***Pat*** Rookie woodworker looking for an education!!!

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#8 posted 12-21-2011 12:57 AM

Pat—The #2MT Drill Chuck is the correct one … I have the same chuck.

—Gerry (SFC, US Army, 1967-1973)

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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hairy

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#9 posted 12-21-2011 01:05 AM

That drill chuck is likely close to this one from harbor freight.http://www.harborfreight.com/1-2-half-inch-mt2-mini-lathe-drill-chuck-42340.html I usually avoid harbor freight, but I have 2 of these. They won’t do what a 4 jaw chuck will, but they have a place. #2MT is #2 morse taper.
You could turn a tenon between centers, then put it in that drill chuck. You would still need tailstock support, unless it’s real short, so it really isn’t going to do much for you.
Good videos on youtube- bobham5,, and Peter Galbert are very good.
Just from 1 Air Force guy to another.

-- in the confusion, I mighta grabbed the gold ...

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#10 posted 01-02-2012 05:57 PM

Pat, I have the same lathe & have that PennStateIndustries chuck thatTheDane mentoned & it is great. My only problem is I want a second one so I don’t have to change the configuration as often. Brian Havens video led me to try my hand at ornament turning, which came out pretty good, so now I signed up for a class with Ashley Harwood In Charleston.
http://www.ashleyharwood.net/ashleyharwood/Woodturning.html

-- Roger

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#11 posted 01-04-2012 12:31 PM

The Penn State unit has arrived will get to installing it as soon as I get a new drivebelt of course it started to shred over the weekend. Thanks for all the great advice. Roger wish I had the time to take some classes but working the 1-1 job ddoesn’t allow for that right now, maybe when I retire or get some help.

-- ***Pat*** Rookie woodworker looking for an education!!!

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#12 posted 01-04-2012 03:49 PM

You can do just as much with a simple screw chuck. just make a long turning between centers to screw to the chuck and to glue the blank you’ll be turning. I used one before I bought a 4 jaw bowl chuck from Grizzly for less than $50. I use my lathe for relaxing and didn’t want to put big bucks into a chuck. The Girzzly chuck uses two levers to tighten the jaws and it works great. Especially for the price. My Delta Midi lathe also has a 1” X 8 tpi spindle. The Harbor Freight drill chuck is a great product for the price. It works and doesn’t cost a fortune. Also the 8 piece chisel set from Harbor Freight is a great product at it’s price point. After you sharpen the chisels, you’ll be impressed with them. A set of 8 is about the same price as one mid price chisel from some of the big name catalog stores.

-- Hal, Tennessee http://www.first285.com

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#13 posted 01-13-2012 12:30 AM

Pat, I have had a drive belt for mine ordered since Dec 3rd. I kept getting “backordered” when I inquired about it. I got the same from several sources. I finally found a substute @ eReplacementparts.com. I put in the Delta part #, got the same” backordered”, but below it it gave me a aftermarket part #, 2 x V-Belt 1/4” x 25-1/2” (250J3), & says it is 100 percent compatable. I just ordered it last night so I don’t know the results yet.

-- Roger

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#14 posted 01-13-2012 12:35 AM

Roger I saw that when I was looking at the different vendors, please let me know if it is compatible so I can get that one ordered.

-- ***Pat*** Rookie woodworker looking for an education!!!

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#15 posted 01-21-2012 01:48 AM

Got the drive belt today. My old ones not broke , so I’m not going to change it, but it appears to be exactly the same. I got 2.

-- Roger

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