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05-07-2008 03:55 AM

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I am my own terrible critic. Is there anyone else out there that is quick to point out to others the mistakes and flaws they made in there own projects? My wife demands that I keep them to my self and not show her my shortcommings. I am told they are called added character.
Thanks KHOP

-- How am I doing? Better than I deserve. Dave Ramsey

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#1 posted 05-07-2008 04:04 AM

I think most of us are perfectionists & always notice the flaws that others don’t. thats what makes us do better next time around.

-- Grumpy - "Always look on the bright side of life"- Monty Python

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#2 posted 05-07-2008 04:08 AM

YES , YES , YES…I think we all do that to ourselves….but then again , we also never make the same mistakes / errors again ! It’s part of the learning curve that this wonderful hobby allows us. You know that you’re good when you can turn an “ooops” into an “aaahhh” .....”Disguising” our flaws is part of the craftmanship we learn… best friend told me that if I didn’t make the error then I would never notice it in the final product….in other words , no one else can see it or realizes that it’s not part of the design ;)

-- I'm absolutely positive that I couldn't be more uncertain!

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#3 posted 05-07-2008 04:15 AM

Yes !!

-- Ron Central, CA

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#4 posted 05-07-2008 04:44 AM

Not me. Everything I’ve ever made was perfect.

Wan’t to buy some stock in the Brooklyn Bridge?

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#5 posted 05-07-2008 05:11 AM

I am my own worst critic. I know exactly where to look for the flaws. I usually don’t see them in others
work because I tend to take thing in in whole.

I don’t think of them as “character” but “Design Features”.

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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#6 posted 05-07-2008 05:12 AM

That’s what I like about this site, we can post photo’s of our projects, point out our flaws, ash for feedback, and know that a fellow LumberJock will never tell an outsider. Right, that is right, right, you would never tell anyone would you, right, I know you would not. I just know you would not, right.

-- "Hold on to instruction, do not let it go; guard it well, for it is your life" Solomon

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#7 posted 05-07-2008 05:16 AM

I know I’m in trouble when I start arguing with myself.

-- My favorite piece is my last one, my best piece is my next one.

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#8 posted 05-07-2008 12:55 PM

My Dad always said, “If you can’t hide it, accentuate it”. A fellow woodworker learned how to inlay because he accidently cut a kerf mark in the wrong area of a table top.

-- How am I doing? Better than I deserve. Dave Ramsey

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#9 posted 05-07-2008 01:36 PM

I have often said that there are on mistakes in woodworking- only opportunities for adding more details or character. We all share the commonality of focusing too much on our perceived shortcomings that usually will go unnoticed by others.

But there is one thing I have learned never to do- and that is point out any “design flaws” in my wife. It tends to get me yelled at. :)

-- Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful- Joshua Marine

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#10 posted 05-07-2008 02:41 PM

I think most woodworkers are capable of seeing things like gaps of .0002 or less in their work. Sometimes I’ll dream up a piece thinking it’s a stunning design, build it, and by the time I’m done I’m pretty tired of it and don’t think it looks all that hot. Others will think it came out just great.

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#11 posted 05-07-2008 03:06 PM

For those of you that read WOOD magazine, you’re probably familiar with Jim Heavy. I attended a couple seminars of his at the St. Louis Woodworking show… His advice on this topic? (and I quote)- “keep your mouth closed and let them enjoy it!”... lol

I’m terrible at pointing out all the flaws in my work, and my wife tells me the same thing (only more harshly) .... “shut up.” However, I think there is something about a woodworker where he/ she feels the need to point out every chatter mark, orbital swirl, joinery gap, and glue spot. I certainly do, and I can’t seem to help it. I think it’s our way of eating a big piece of humble pie.

I have to agree with Boardman… I tend to be so picky that I see every detail to the couple thousandths, and by the time I’m done with it, I’m like… “Eh… I don’t know, honey, what do you think?...”

-- As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. (Proverbs 27:17) †

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#12 posted 05-07-2008 04:14 PM

I think the reason I’m so harsh on myself is I want to be a profectionist but my brain and my skills are only human. We are born imperfect. Thanks to GOD I can accept my flaws. The pieces I have built will hopefully last much longer than me. I am sure they (pieces) won’t become collectables, but maybe family members will appreciate them. Many projects I have built, have hidden in them, small time capsuals which include pictures and prayers. A friend had built a four poster bed for his daughter which included a written prayer in each leg. He will make sure she will find out upon his departure from earth. That makes it even more special for her. Just thought some of you would enjoy adding a little extra to your creations.
Thanks KHOP

-- How am I doing? Better than I deserve. Dave Ramsey

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#13 posted 05-07-2008 04:15 PM

I think we all see our flaws, and are our own worst critics. I can see where a joint is not as tight as I like, a glue up that did not quite work, a stain that was not exactly the right color, a finish with a run, and on and on.

Probably 90% of what we notice as flaws most people will not even see unless you point it out to them. A few might, but they could be a fellow lumberjock. Luckily, they will likely be kind and not mention it.

If it is a cosmetic flaw, probably not worth pointing out. A structural flaw, well you will probably keep it yourself and rebuild one for someone else. The first one will be labeled as a prototype.

-- Bill, Turlock California,

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#14 posted 05-07-2008 04:43 PM

My belief is that perfection comes from practice and repetition. As a hobbiest, I only make one unique thing at a time from what ever design I was inspired by. So mistakes are accepted as a chance to modify the design or to practice my repair skill. Since there are usually more than one mistakes, I like to point out the one I’m proud of (great hide, or design modification) and keep quiet on the rest (gaps, glue, tearouts).

-- Thuan

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#15 posted 05-07-2008 04:50 PM

khop- regarding your last reply—- that’s awesome!... I hadn’t thought of doing that!

Thuan- I think you have it, man… I need to start doing that. I’m adopting your philosophy…

-- As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. (Proverbs 27:17) †

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