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12-14-2011 04:23 AM

Topic tags/keywords: finishing end grain question

The last box I made with a patchwork endgrain lid required 14 coats of wiped on Spar before I got the flat/smooth/gloss finish I wanted. Is there a quicker way? I have trouble getting that ‘piano finish’ on end grain. Grain fillers won’t work here due to all the different colored woods. Help please! You can click on my projects to see the type lid I’m refering to.

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#1 posted 12-14-2011 05:25 AM

Particularly with oil, if you don’t allow enough time between coats, it just keeps seeping deeper and deeper into the wood. You want to coat the surface, not pressure treat the wood. Try extending the time between coats to let one coat completely dry before applying the next. This is not the entire solution but could be used with other methods to obtain your desired result. Additionally, try sanding the end grain to a higher grit. This can also help keep the oil from penetrating so much.

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#2 posted 12-14-2011 05:30 AM

What Rance said
on the end grain sand to 600-1000 the finer the grit the less finish penetrates .

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#3 posted 12-14-2011 05:34 AM

Gluesize works well on endgrain so that it lays down a “base” for any finish that you apply. I am not for sure if it will benefit you in this situation, and it never hurts to give it the good ol’ scholar try. I just take ww glue and mix it 50/50 with water. If you glue is really thick use a 25% glue 75% water solution. I don’t know how well it will work with an oil finish though. Let us know if you try it and how the results. Merry Christmas.

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#4 posted 12-14-2011 05:46 AM

Thanks guys. I’ll try sanding it to much finer grits (GROAN!) tomorrow. The glue idea concerns me as I’m afraid it will keep the oil from ‘beautifying’ the wood. It never looks good when I oil over glue I missed when sanding.

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#5 posted 12-14-2011 06:04 AM

Dang here was a question I knew the answer to and you all beat me to the punch! I always sand my end grain to at least 600 grit, sometimes higher depending on the project. Works like a charm.

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#6 posted 12-14-2011 08:18 AM

Didn’t see any projects with an end grain top….

I think what has been said will help and work but I will also add to put on a couple of coats of de-waxed shellac before the varnish, this will help tremendously.

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#7 posted 12-14-2011 03:19 PM

Childress, The end grain top project is on page 3 of my projects and is titled “does this qualify for my merit badge”. I have never used shellac but maybe its time I learned. Thanks.

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#8 posted 12-14-2011 03:48 PM

Childress, this box has the end grain top

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#9 posted 12-14-2011 05:53 PM

i just brush on some from a can
on end grain
till it is well saturated

let dry good

then sand smooth

then use the wipe on

as they are the same
(just thinner in wipe on)
they are compatible

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#10 posted 12-15-2011 03:56 AM

I broke down and bought the Abranet sampler and sanded my end grain to 600 grit, then applied Blo. It already looks better than my previous ones. I would like to finish these 2 boxes with BLO and Renissance Wax and no other finish. This gives a really ‘touchable’ finish. What does the LJ brain trust think about this plan? Thanks for all the suggestions so far.

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#11 posted 12-15-2011 11:43 AM

What brand of “Spar” are you using?

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#12 posted 12-16-2011 03:47 AM

Min Wax

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#13 posted 12-17-2011 01:53 AM

Okay, I had thought you were talking about Spar Varnish.

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#14 posted 12-17-2011 03:50 AM

hobomonk, I thought I was talking about Spar Varnish??? Now I’m really confused (not for the first time though).

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#15 posted 12-17-2011 03:51 AM

End grain is always extra work, but rewarding. I usually sand to 320 or finer, burnish with 0000 steel wool, and then polish with worn out 320+ wet-dry paper. Comes out looking good.

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