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DriftWood07

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940 days ago

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I am torn between a “new” unisaw model 36-L352 that is only two years old and will have three years left on the warranty or an older Powermatic 66. The delta is selling for $1800 and comes with the rolling base and an extra dado insert. The powermatic has the 50” fence and a route-R-lift and the seller hasn’t figured a price on it yet and was wondering what others would recommend between the two. I think the Powermatic is a PM 66 only because of the “made in the USA” sticker on the saw. I would appreciate feedback if you think otherwise. What would be the most people would be willing to pay for each? Also, how would one find out what year the Powermatic is by looking at the SN? All feedback is welcome.

Personally, I think I might like the powermatic 66 more than the Delta, but if the PM is a PM2000 I will be leaning toward the Delta. No real reason for my liking the PM over the Delta, just their reputation of the 66.
-John


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Loren

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#1 posted 940 days ago

Neither… unless the PM is $800 or so.

If you’ve got $1800 for a used table saw look for an SCMI or similar
Euro saw. The Italians and Germans have the edge in table saw
design. No American manufacturer has ever made a format
slider as far as I know.

Those dudes selling those saws have more saw than they need and
are looking to unload their space and lack of talent problem. As a cash
buyer, you’ve got more power than you realize.

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Lee Barker

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#2 posted 940 days ago

Loren makes a good point, as always.

But if it’s one or the other, I can think of only two things that could possibly differentiate them—left tilt vs. right tilt. and motor hp. The rest is just whistling bells. It’s likely the PM is left tilt; the US could be either. Other than that, they both have an arbor that goes around real fast, a table that’s flat, heavy, and accommodates things like fences and miter gauges and on the front is a switch that says “off” and “on.”

Kindly,

Lee

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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rustynails

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#3 posted 940 days ago

If it’s a Pm 66 and single phase they are hard to get if in good shape and are very desirable with the old school people. I had a Pm 66 that I just sold not to long age and I have a new Delta currently. Both saws are good and will do you a good job. If looking at the Pm 66 check the age and if the bearings, motor and fence are in good shape if those are in good shape and the price is right it might be the way to go. I personally like my new Uni-saw and am very happy with my decision to sell the PM66 and get the Uni mainly for all the new features on the Delta compared to the old design of the Pm66. In the end I thick it’s more what the prices are and how much you really want to spend. Also ask if the PM66 was used in a commercial shop as most have spent their lives there and have been worked hard? Also have you looked at the Delta’s in person as they have some great features on them compared to the old designs?

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a1Jim

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#4 posted 940 days ago

I’ve had a PM 66 for years and have enjoyed having it and has done a great job. The PM66 should not be anywhere near $1800 . I think $500-$900 depending on HP and condition is much more realistic .

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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doyoulikegumwood

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#5 posted 940 days ago

I agree with jim when buying use money talks and the other stuff walks and frankly 1800 bucks for a used saw no mater how old it is is a bit much to ask

-- I buy tools so i can make more money,so ican buy more tools so I can work more, to make more money, so I can buy more tool, so I can work more

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knotscott

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#6 posted 939 days ago

That “new” Delta sounds fairly expensive if realistically it’s a “used” saw. Most used Uni’s of that age would sell in the $900 to $1200 range…the warranty is nice, but not worth $600+ IMHO.

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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SnowyRiver

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#7 posted 939 days ago

I am a Powermatic fan, so I tend to lean towards Powermatic, but Delta makes a good saw too. To find out what year the Powermatic was made, look at the serial number. Usually with older PM saws the first two digits is the year of manufacture. I bought a used Powermatic several years ago (PM66) and it was a 1988 model. It had extention tables on the outfeed side and the right side of the main table. It also came with some Forrest blades and a couple of jigs. It didnt have a moble base. No rust. Its a 3 hp single phase saw (you can see it in my gallery) and I paid $1650 for it. Its been a gem and runs like new. If you work Craig’s List and Ebay (I bought mine on Ebay from a guy near me) you can usually find the later model PM 66s for around $1200 to $1600 depending on what they have. Some used PM saws may be less depending on age and condition. I always looked for one that looked like it was well taken care of…no rust etc. and one that I could turn on and see how it runs. Good Luck !

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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Bertha

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#8 posted 939 days ago

I’m I the only one that thinks the Delta is a bit high? I’m with the OP, liking the PM for no genuinely good reason other than I like them. Loren’s right, of course, that you could probably find a used euro for the price of the Delta. I’d go PM if it’s not shot.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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knotscott

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#9 posted 939 days ago

Am I the only one that thinks the Delta is a bit high?

...Nope! ;-)

-- Happiness is like wetting your pants...everyone can see it, but only you can feel the warmth....

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Beginningwoodworker

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#10 posted 939 days ago

How much is the Powermatic 66? I have a Delta Unisaw. But I think the Unisaw is over price.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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DriftWood07

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#11 posted 939 days ago

Thanks for all of the great information thus far! I thought I posted pics of both table saws the other night for everyone to see and comment on. From reading all of the responses, it sounds as though the pics are not there to view. Let me know if you can or can’t see them and I will try to get them up tonight as they are definitely worth viewing.
-John

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Bertha

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#12 posted 939 days ago

^Sorry, KnotScott, I kind of skimmed the posts;)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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DriftWood07

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#13 posted 939 days ago

Update!
Below are the photos of both saws in question. The Unisaw is newer, two year old model, with the “made in the USA of US and foreign components” emblem and the Powermatic looks newer but not sure what year and maybe you will know roughly by looking at it. The PM has a Gold series sticker on it and don’t know if they did that for a certain year or during certain years.

Enjoy!

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SnowyRiver

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#14 posted 939 days ago

I would like having both blade adjustment wheels on the front like the Delta has, but that Powermatic looks mighty nice. It almost looks like it has been hardly used. It seems to me they were doing the gold series machines in the early to mid 2000s, just before they came out with the retro style like the PM2000. What is the serial number? You might be able to tell by the serial.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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a1Jim

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#15 posted 939 days ago

After seeing the Photos they both look pretty new. since the PM falls in the $2800- 3200 new then $1800 for the PM is not bad at all. I’m guessing it’s a lot newer then a PM66

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

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