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b2rtch

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984 days ago

I wanted to do this for a long time and finally this morning I did it.
In about 6 hours I totally modified my HF dust collector: I build the cart of scrap, I repositioned the motor/impeller and I installed a wok modification.
Of course I cannot tell you how much better it works but for sure it has more suction than before and I sucked in a 5 gallon bucket of dust without having a grain in the bag.
You cannot see it but I also have a Thien separator in the trash can.
Thank you to all who did this kind of things before me and who gave me the ideas.

-- Bert


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doyoulikegumwood

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#1 posted 984 days ago

very nice bert i have the same collector and am thing of doing the same thing

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#2 posted 984 days ago

Looking great Bert.

-- Larry "Work like a Captain but Play like a Pirate!"

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#3 posted 984 days ago

Toolz, I used a 16” wok, that I paid $20.00.
The great mystery is “where should the wok seat”?
Does it make a difference if it seats high or low.
Mine seats pretty high.
If you have very good eyes, on the picture through the plastic bag, you can see the bottom edge of the wok
I know and I understand many think about aerodynamic and fluidic but I do not understand the principle behind the cone or the wok.
Do they prevent the fine dust to be sucked up back in the filter?

-- Bert

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fito

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#4 posted 984 days ago

hi, iam planning in doing the same but with phil thien baffle hat, i all ready do the baffle hat for my shop vac and it work, greattt. nice work, it sholud work alot better!!

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b2rtch

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#5 posted 984 days ago

Fito, I use both. I have the Thien separator in the trash can and the wok in the dust collector.
My main goal is to prevent so much dust from entering the cartridge filter.
I tell you in about a year if it worked or not. ( it was about a year since I installed my cartridge filter. I found over a gallon of dust in it the day before yesterday)

-- Bert

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TheDane

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#6 posted 984 days ago

Bert—Nice! How did you suspend the wok … steel strapping?

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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a1Jim

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#7 posted 984 days ago

Wow Bert you really did a number on the HF changing it from a chevy to a Ferrari.

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b2rtch

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#8 posted 984 days ago

Thank you Jim.
Gerry , no I used a piece of plywood that I cut the match the inside angle of the dust collector then I screwed it up with two screws and then I drilled two holes in the bottom of the wok to screw it to this piece of plywood.
If you look at the picture I also use two bungee cords the hold the filter down instead of the turn buckles, much easier to remove the cartridge to inspect and to clean it.

-- Bert

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ChunkyC

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#9 posted 984 days ago

Nice work. I’ve been wanting to do the exact same thing to mine. Maybe with your inspiration, I find the perspiration to do mine.

I like the bungies on the outside of the Wynn. I bought eye hooks at the hardware store a week or so ago to do the exact same to mine.

Maybe some day I’ll find the motivation..

Nice work.

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ChunkyC

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#10 posted 984 days ago

I’ve never heard of anyone putting a Wok in their DC before. Where did you get the idea from?

-- Chunk's Workshop pictures: http://spadfest.rcspads.com/thumbnails.php?album=135

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b2rtch

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#11 posted 984 days ago

Chunck,
I found the idea here:
http://lumberjocks.com/Toolz/blog/24815
and here:
http://www.popularwoodworking.com/tools/shop-made-vortex-dust-collector-woks-on

Also I have been reading about dust collection and the HF dust collector for year.

-- Bert

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ChunkyC

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#12 posted 984 days ago

Thanks for the links. This is completely new to me.

This is just my opinion but I think the Wok with the Thein baffle on an pre-separator is a tad overkill. However, I would love to hear back after you’ve run yours for a while and let us know. I had a Thein baffle in my HF DC before I got my barrel pre-separator and ran both for a while. I can’t tell any difference from when I was running both verses just the pre-separator that I have now. Now that I’ve converted mine into a two stage DC, I never get any chips in the bag, except for when the barrel is full. When I get chips, I know it’s time to go and dump the barrel.

Well done and thanks for the links.

-- Chunk's Workshop pictures: http://spadfest.rcspads.com/thumbnails.php?album=135

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b2rtch

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#13 posted 984 days ago

I am trying to get no dust (or very little) in the filter, this is why I added the wok.
Time will tell if that works

-- Bert

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b2rtch

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#14 posted 983 days ago

Chunck, I went to visit your workshop page, I like your fixture to flatten the board and I wish I had all the boards you have.
It makes me sick in my guts every time I think about the sawmill I had in France a long time ago and all the wood I cut and that was left outside to rot. Today in our country that would thousands of dollars but in fact this is not even for the money but for the waste of very nice wood.

-- Bert

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TheDane

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#15 posted 983 days ago

Bert—I hear you on the waste.

There’s a sawmill a few miles north of where I live, and the operator has been using big hardwood burls for firewood!

When somebody from my turning club was up there to buy some rough lumber, he noticed a 53-foot trailer that was about 2/3 full of beautiful burls. He asked how much and the mill operator told him to take what he wanted … otherwise they would just go into the wood-burning furnace.

Bowl-turners would give upward of $75 apiece for these!

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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