Behr outdoor stain disaster.

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Forum topic by douginaz posted 12-07-2011 01:49 AM 1411 views 0 times favorited 2 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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12-07-2011 01:49 AM

Topic tags/keywords: red oak finishing outdoor stain wagon

Hi All, I have been working with my neighbor on a wagon ( for his granddaughter. The ones I have previously made lived inside, this one is doing outside duty. The material is red oak, I’ve used stainless steel screws, sealed where I could with epoxy and have put drain holes in strategic locations. As a base coat we have put two spit coats of shellac, sanded between coats to 180. The Grandpa looked over the stain and found a “weatherproofing stain made by Behr (premium). The first coat was a disaster, I couldn’t get the stain to lay down no matter how much I thinned or what I used to apply it (no gun). This is a water clean up material but has ethylene glycol as a base, did I screw up by using water as the thinner? The temp in the shop was 65F so I’m not sure it that was a factor or not. I would appreciate any suggestions on how to get this under control and what I need to do to undo the damage.

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#1 posted 12-10-2011 05:24 AM

I suspect the Behr needs to be used over raw wood. the shellac is probably killing you. try it on a scrap without the shellac
one other thought is was your shellac dewaxed?

silicone contamination also can cause frustration! one project I could watch the film part like the red sea! my wife uses pledge (contains silicon) on EVERYTHING! she must have dusted my shop!!


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#2 posted 12-10-2011 06:00 AM

If it is a stain, it has to be applied over unsealed raw wood so it can penetrate. Since you sealed your wood with the shellac its not going to stay on. Your best bet is to sand the shellac coats and apply the stain. Since its also weatherproofing, you do not need to put somethign on top of it. Just apply two coats of it.

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