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Forum topic by empeg9000 posted 12-06-2011 04:00 PM 3384 views 1 time favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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empeg9000

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12-06-2011 04:00 PM

So not too long ago I received the Dust Right Vortex as a gift and I have been using it on my shop vac. Last week I bought the HF Dust Collector. i come to realize that the HF has 4” hose and the Vortex has 2.5” for a shop vac. Will I lose performance if I use an adaptor to go down to 2.5” then back up to 4” on the outlet side or should I just go ahead and purchase something like the woodcraft garbage can vortex? I also saw this but I still like the idea of making a 2 stage collector.


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richgreer

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#1 posted 12-06-2011 05:01 PM

When I first got my Jet DC I used it without a vortex. Whenever my DC picked up a small block of wood, I could hear the “ping” when the wood hit the blades. I knew that, in time, the blades would be damaged by this abuse. I added a woodcraft garbage can vortex and never heard that ping again.

I write this to encourage you to stick with a 2-stage system.

I can’t quantify how much using a 2.5” port on one side of the vortex will reduce your efficiency, but it just does not seem like a good idea to me.

Another point – I believe the Rockler VOrtex has a 10 gallon capacity. My garbage can holds about 30 gallons and I still have to empty it (too) often. I would not like emptying it 3 times more often.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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empeg9000

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#2 posted 12-06-2011 05:36 PM

Good point Rich on the 10 gallon vs 30 gallon. Well I could always keep that for the miter saw since that thing makes a huge mess so it’s not like it will be wasted.

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Viktor

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#3 posted 12-07-2011 06:31 AM

Yes, there will be noticeable loss of performance. Shop vac develops about 5 times the static pressure of a typical dust collector. DC will perform poorly with smaller diameter hoses or connectors.

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NiteWalker

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#4 posted 12-07-2011 01:15 PM

Congrats on the dust right vortex!
I have one of those on my short list. :)

I would try it with an adapter first to see how it affects performance. If it’s not up to what you think it should be, THEN go for the woodcraft garbage can separator. If it turns out you need the woodcraft lid, the vortex will still save you a lot on shop vac bags, one of the main reason I want one based on how much I’ve spent on bags this past year.

-- He who dies with the most tools... dies with the emptiest wallet.

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Brian Rickman

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#5 posted 12-07-2011 11:41 PM

I used a Dust Deputy cyclone with a shop vac (2.5” hose) for a while. It worked fine, but couldn’t quite keep up with the amount of dust my band saw produced. So I upgraded to a 1 HP DC with 4” hose. Performance with the Dust Deputy in line was much worse then when I had used the shop vac.

I sold the Dust Deputy and built a simple box type dust separator with 4” hose connectors. Performance is now what I expected. The new arrangement gets almost all the dust from the band saw.

Definitely set aside the vortex for use with the shop vac. You need something bigger for the DC.

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Viking

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#6 posted 12-08-2011 12:13 AM

Go with the 30 gallon trash can pre-separator and you will be very happy. The Dust Deputy will choke your system down significantly.

You might also consider the Wynn filter cartridge which will great increase air flow due to much greater surface area for air to flow through.

Good Luck!

-- Rick Gustafson - Lost Creek Ranch - Colorado County, Texas

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