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Forum topic by Bill White posted 12-03-2011 10:09 PM 1963 views 0 times favorited 54 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Bill White

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12-03-2011 10:09 PM

Many of the questions posted do not include any/some/little detail. It may be a case of the posters not knowing what info to include or how to fully describe the issue in question.
Whatever the case, and please, don’t misunderstand my post, the more information you can offer the better the answers will be. There is a bunch of really good woodworkers here who will bend backwards to help.
As I have said before:
Help us help you. We all had to learn, and LJ is a great forum to expand your knowledge.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us


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Rick Dennington

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#1 posted 12-04-2011 01:34 AM

I agree, Bill…..Sometimes it’s hard to give an answer (s) when you don’t understand the question, or know what the poster is wanting…More details are often needed, or an explanation given…just explan it the best you can..

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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Betsy

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#2 posted 12-04-2011 02:19 AM

As you say some folks have questions but don’t know how to phrase them. Sometimes they just need to post it and let the rest of us pull the details out of them. It can be frustrating for both the poster and the people who want to help.

-- Like a bad penny, I keep coming back!

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TheDane

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#3 posted 12-04-2011 04:40 AM

Bill—You are correct, but this happens all over.

I am in the computer software business, and am often stunned at how little information people offer when they contact us for support.

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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Rick Dennington

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#4 posted 12-04-2011 05:45 AM

Bill,

I have found that if these people would do a little homework like reading ww magazines, watching ww videos, ww books, etc., that a lot of their questions could be answered before they come on here asking for advice….They want us to tell them all the answers without doing any homework on their own…..I don’t mind trying to help anyone, as long as they try to help themselves first…if I know the answer…..If I don’t someone else on here will know, as I think we have some of the smartest and most knowlegeable woodworkers on this site…...

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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ajosephg

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#5 posted 12-04-2011 03:20 PM

That bugs me too, Bill. If someone wants/expects others to spend their time and expertise they ought to be willing to invest some of their time up front.

-- Joe

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CharlieM1958

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#6 posted 12-04-2011 04:17 PM

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen a question here, was not 100% sure of the correct answer, and Googled it only to find a wealth of knowledge about the subject. As they say…. Google is your friend.

Gerry: I feel your pain. I’m am by far the most tech-savvy person in my office, and I’m constantly getting the most ridiculous “my computer stopped working” questions. The first thing I always ask is what they were doing at the time, and the answer is almost always “nothing”.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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miles125

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#7 posted 12-04-2011 04:23 PM

As a woodworker i’ve always been partial to the “How much would a cabinet cost me?” question. To which i’m always tempted to respond “How long is a string?”. :)

-- "The way to make a small fortune in woodworking- start with a large one"

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Dark_Lightning

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#8 posted 12-04-2011 05:07 PM

I see this all over the ‘net. I’ve always expected that I had to go find my own answer, but a lot of people will just ask a question, no matter how poorly phrased (mainly due to lack of knowledge). It’s especially fun to see question on automotive sites. Some poor guy doesn’t even know how to describe the problem clearly, but is asking for diagnosis and repair processes. “Won’t start” runs the gamut from dead battery to needs a valve job. The latter being input from a guy who’s car had a bad valve, which didn’t make it a no-start condition.

The search function is a marvelous tool, and many people should spend more time with it…learning to use it might be the first lesson.

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Roger Clark aka Rex

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#9 posted 12-04-2011 05:31 PM

I agree with what is being said here, especially what Gerry and Charlie say about the tech area, I was in IT/IS and understand what they go through.
I think the answer would be that anyone wanting help might go through a “check list” before posting which gives circumstances and background of the problem in detail and includes references to other sources already tried.
Basically better question information will produce less confusing requests and find the right answers quickly.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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Rick Dennington

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#10 posted 12-04-2011 05:48 PM

I agree with all of the above….there is so much information out there, especially on the internet, that it’s overwhelming…When I started doing woodworking 25 years ago, we didn’t have that luxury like today. I had to learn everything I know from books, magazines, and very few videos, trial and error (thanks Norm). And I’m still using the net today for research…..I didn’t have anyone to ask questions to, and get answers from….as I’m sure most of the “old timers” of ww didn’t either….It was improvise, overcome, adapt….do the best you could, and learn from your mistakes…..I’ve been on LJs for nearly 2 1/2 years, and heard the same questions aked and the same answers given….over and over….I have never asked a “how-to” question, cause if I want to know, I research it…... As Atom Jack said: “The search function si a marvelous tool”.....use it…!!!!!!!

-- " I started with nothing, and I've still got most of it left".......

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Roger Clark aka Rex

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#11 posted 12-04-2011 05:49 PM

cr1:
Most questions posed are out of my league, so I can only post answers to situations that I have run into, I just hope it helps the poor bastard out.

”How bad do you hate being mistaken?”
Wow, quite a lot. With my crazy personality and sense of humor I hate it when someone does not take it the way I intended.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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Tedstor

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#12 posted 12-04-2011 07:27 PM

OK, OK. Sorry for all the vague questions. Please bear with though….just one more time.
1- Which handsaw should I buy?
2- My power saw is making a weird noise. Any idea what might be causing it?
3- Pins or tails first?

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Sawkerf

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#13 posted 12-04-2011 07:41 PM

One of my pet peeves is questions about which tool(s) to buy. Hey, it ain’t rocket science! Check the reviews for obvious problems and make a decision. No matter what you buy, you’ll find things you really like (and dislike).

Another peeve is when someone asks about a power tool and the hand tool crowd chimes in with the ecstasy they get from their hand planes. – lol

-- Adversity doesn't build character...................it reveals it.

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Roger Clark aka Rex

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#14 posted 12-04-2011 07:54 PM

Addendum: #1. Preferably second hand. #2. Get your radio off that rap station #3. Pin the tail on the donkey (your ass)

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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Roger Clark aka Rex

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#15 posted 12-04-2011 07:56 PM

P.S. re: #3, No offence intended to political zoo animals

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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