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12-01-2011 01:56 AM

I recently purchased the Freud SBOX8 set after reading the good reviews this set got. I just finished working through a project where I used 5/8” thick Walnut and Maple and must admit, I’m less than impressed with the performance of this set. It was quite difficult to feed the wood through the blade, even my practice pieces of Poplar got burned at the top of the cut. I actually checked the blades because I thought that surely, I put one of them on backwards! My saw is a 3hp, 220v Jet so I know I have the power to cut these joints and have done so many times with an Amana dado set. Only problem with the dado set is that it leaves tiny score marks on the outside of the cuts.
Am I the only one to have a problem with this set? Just wondering?

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#1 posted 12-01-2011 05:17 AM

I have the Freud box joint set and have sawed a lot with it. It has never burned any wood and cuts effortlessly on my Grizz 715p. I would return yours as they must be defective. You already said you didn’t put them in backwards so I’m guessing you got a bum set.

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#2 posted 12-01-2011 05:27 AM

John—I, too, have the Freud 8” Box Joint set. Never had a problem with burning or tear-out. I use mine on a Jet 708100 (1.5hp 120vac)

What sort of ajig were you using?

—Gerry

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#3 posted 12-01-2011 06:45 AM

It’s a jig from a magazine that rides in both miter slots. Pretty accurate in the past with my dado head. As I looked at some of the fingers closer it’s apparent that the board is raising up on the jig! In the past I’d never clamp the board down, holding it in the jig was all that is required. I sent Freud an email this evening, see what they might have to say.
I have been known to be “cursed” when it comes to buying tools, seem to get that one lemon!

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#4 posted 12-01-2011 04:08 PM

I have a WoodSmith aluminum jig (attaches to the miter gauge) ... with softer stock (e.g. pine), I hand-hold the work-piece. On hardwoods like maple or walnut, I use an Irwin Quick-Grip clamp.

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#5 posted 12-01-2011 05:26 PM

I just received an email from Freud telling me it sounds like a defect because, according to him, the box cutter should cut even easier than a dado head. I’ll mail it back to them along with some samples of the wood I’ve been working with. It’s too bad because I’m working on a Christmas present for my grandson—- guess I’ll be using the dado head!

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#6 posted 12-01-2011 08:43 PM

John—The Freud tech is right … I have used mine instead of my dado stack for 1/4” and 3/8” dadoes because they do cut cleaner (my dado stack is a POS … hoping for a new one for Christmas).

Maybe they can DX/cross-ship a replacement for you … I would push them to do that. Or maybe the retailer you bought it from should get involved. You paid good money for what is supposed to be a first-class tool.

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#7 posted 12-01-2011 10:24 PM

Hi Gerry, I did just that this morning. I returned the blade, my receipt from Amazon, and a bunch of pieces of wood that I used for set up. Really has me puzzled because, like everyone says, this is supposed to be a top notch set. One thing I’m wondering about, I ordered it through Amazon it didn’t show a price saying it was below manufactures suggested price. I clicked to order it and it came back with a price of around $75.00. I decided to wait until that night to order and this time the price came up at $50.00 but only one was available. Naturally I jumped on that but wonder if that was all legitimate? The set has all the markings of Freud on it.
In any case, I’ll post the results to this thread so everyone who’s interested will know the outcome.

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#8 posted 12-01-2011 11:47 PM

$50 is pretty low … Amazon shows it at $72.53 right now. I think I paid more than that, but I can’t recall (more than 2 years ago).

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#9 posted 12-02-2011 12:00 AM

Was the $50 set purchased directly from Amazon or one of their 3rd party sellers? That is a really low price.

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#10 posted 12-02-2011 12:25 AM

I know that was a crazy price, it came from some tool outlet place via Amazon so I really wonder about it. Time will tell, like they say—It’s in mail!

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#11 posted 12-02-2011 01:20 AM

Last thing, the invoice from Amazon said shipped from Outlet Tool Supply. I googled them and it’s an outfit of Atascadero, CA. It as the price that got me, I generally like to shop local and avoid the Big Box stores. In any case, I’ll let everyone know the outcome of this when it’s resolved (hopefully).

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#12 posted 12-02-2011 05:18 AM

Is this the really shiney chrome looking set? I paid $99 for mine (ouch!). But it cuts great!

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#13 posted 12-02-2011 06:58 AM

Yep, it’s shiny but doesn’t cut that great. Maybe they remembered the old saying “even if it don’t go—chrome it” I guess I’m giving my age away with that one!

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#14 posted 12-28-2011 05:42 PM

If any of you are still watching this I’ve been in contact with Jim from Freud in North Carolina. They checked the unit and there was some problem with a few of the teeth. He also suggested I check my jig and it was off and cutting at about 89 degrees so I need to re-make the jig. Bottom line though is that I received a message from him this morning and they have shipped out a replacement set—I enjoy doing business with any company that has good customer service and Freud is apparently one of them!
Another matter though is the type of jig to re-make. I like the ones that ride in both miter slots based on plans from Popular Woodworking. I use UHMW for the slides and replaceable backing pieces. Probably opening a can of worms asking for suggestions but what the heck—might as well go for it!

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#15 posted 12-28-2011 06:11 PM

John—Thanks for the update. This just reinforces my view of Freud … good products and good customer service.

As for the jig … I like my WoodSmith aluminum jig (attaches to the miter gauge), but if I were to build a shopmade jig, I would probably opt for one that straddles the blade and rides in both tracks. The downside to this type of jig is that it probably wouldn’t be portable … doesn’t appear to be any real ‘standard’ for the distance between the blade and miter tracks. But, if you’re only going to use it on one saw, what the heck!

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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