LumberJocks

Need help with cedar chest

  • Advertise with us

« back to Woodworking Skill Share forum

Forum topic by john_az posted 11-29-2011 05:47 PM 1993 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
View john_az's profile

john_az

105 posts in 1831 days


11-29-2011 05:47 PM

Hello,

I’m building a cedar chest and already have the front/back attached to the ends. I would like some suggestions on how to attach the bottom. If there is wood movement across the bottom, what would be a good way to attach the bottom?

Thanks,
John

-- John, Phoenix-AZ


10 replies so far

View a1Jim's profile

a1Jim

115202 posts in 3038 days


#1 posted 11-29-2011 06:00 PM

Hi John
Welcome to Ljs
There are a couple ways to attach the bottom. The first is the most simple by just attaching some cleats to the bottom and placing the bottom on top of them and the second is to rabbit the bottom edge and installing the bottom that way. If your using solid wood you will need to leave a 1/16” gap on each side were there will be wood movement. If you want to lesson the wood movement possibilities you could use plywood for the bottom.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

View john_az's profile

john_az

105 posts in 1831 days


#2 posted 11-29-2011 06:17 PM

Thanks Jim.

The bottom is solid cedar glued up from three boards. If I rabbet the bottom and leave the 1/16” gap, I wouldn’t want to glue it – correct? Should I use elongated holes and use screws so that if there is movement it will be allowed to move?

Thanks again,
John

-- John, Phoenix-AZ

View a1Jim's profile

a1Jim

115202 posts in 3038 days


#3 posted 11-29-2011 06:28 PM

Your right not to glue it John . If your using screws just making the holes 3/32” over size will do the trick as long as the head of the screws are large enough to hold well. The fact that your using ceder helps too it will give more than a harder wood.
The last chest I made I used plywood for the bottom glued and nailed it from the bottom and put a 1/4” thin layer of cedar on the inside fastened with 23 gauge nails that are pretty much invisible and some glue in the center . I hope you post photo’s when your done.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

View john_az's profile

john_az

105 posts in 1831 days


#4 posted 11-29-2011 06:51 PM

Thanks again Jim.

We have an old cedar chest (approx 70 years old) made by the Ed Roos company and it hasn’t split apart yet. I turned it over to see how they attached the bottom and it is nailed :). I was probably over worried about it but I’m glad I checked in here before gluing it! You can obviously tell that I’m a novice. I’m glad I joined this forum, it obviously has a lot of very knowledgeable people from looking at the projects that people have posted.

John

-- John, Phoenix-AZ

View a1Jim's profile

a1Jim

115202 posts in 3038 days


#5 posted 11-29-2011 07:06 PM

Your welcome John
One more though,If you rabbit the bottom deep enough you can then put the bottom in and then nail and glue some cleats below the bottom and leave the bottom free floating above the cleats.

-- http://artisticwoodstudio.com Custom furniture

View Grandpa's profile

Grandpa

3256 posts in 2136 days


#6 posted 11-29-2011 10:01 PM

I have a cedar chest that I built 48 years ago. The bottom is set on the sides and ends and attached with screws. I think I glued it but can’t remember for certain. then a piece of 1/4 cedar was used to cover the bottom edge. I actually have 3 of these chests and have never had any problems with expansion or splitting. I have another chest in my shop that was given to me. Well I chose to rescue it from the trash. The owner had already put it out then thought about me. I figured I would rebuilt it or as a last resort I could have some aromatic cedar. This was a bought chest that was coming all apart. The young man did tell me that he and his sister would jump on the lid as kids when it was over filled. I really don’t think we can blame the construction process on that one.
Welcome to LJ and do post some pics

View john_az's profile

john_az

105 posts in 1831 days


#7 posted 11-29-2011 10:12 PM

Jim and Grandpa,

I really appreciate all the guidance. I’ll post some pics when its done. I’m building this for my son which will go along a wall in his room so that he can use it as a bench/table/storage. My wife requested that it be made of aromatic cedar. That way we can store some of his things from when he was a little tike. He’s now 17 and not so little. These kids grow up darn fast!

John

-- John, Phoenix-AZ

View wiredheart's profile

wiredheart

6 posts in 2829 days


#8 posted 11-29-2011 10:57 PM

John, I’ve always said that from the moment your first kid is born, you just put your life on the fast forward conveyor belt. Ron

-- wiredheart

View john_az's profile

john_az

105 posts in 1831 days


#9 posted 01-21-2012 06:06 AM

Grampa, Jim,

I finished the cedar chest – see photos. It turned out pretty well for one of my first projects. Again, appreciate your guidance. On another note, I just purchased my first jointer (Delta 6” X5). I bought it used on craigslist and it is in very good shape. I just ran some big box store pine A.K.A. banana wood through it and it straightened it perfectly.

Regards,
John

-- John, Phoenix-AZ

View Grandpa's profile

Grandpa

3256 posts in 2136 days


#10 posted 01-21-2012 06:10 AM

The chest turned out really nice. Nice looking jointer too

Have your say...

You must be signed in to reply.

DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.

Latest Projects | Latest Blog Entries | Latest Forum Topics

HomeRefurbers.com