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Forum topic by Moron posted 11-22-2011 07:25 AM 1390 views 0 times favorited 14 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-22-2011 07:25 AM

why is at some job sites, tools you plug into an electrical wall outlet

the tools don’t work. The master of frustration is a shitty electrician.

is it because the electrician doesn’t know his shit ? and cheated on the gauge of the wire ?

or do I blame my tools ?

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#1 posted 11-22-2011 07:42 AM

we run our own homeruns right to the panel then feed to the tools with a 10 then no one can complain

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#2 posted 11-22-2011 07:51 AM

I hate revisiting bad math

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#3 posted 11-22-2011 05:52 PM

I should also mention that I have met far more “good” trades then “bad”

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#4 posted 11-22-2011 09:18 PM

This sounds like a rant more than a question….....but….......remember, just because there is a plug in a wall somewhere on some job site, it doesn’t mean that it’s turned on.

-- When questioned about using glue on a garbage bin I responded, "Wood working is about good technique and lots of glue........I have the glue part down."

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#5 posted 11-22-2011 09:27 PM

What do ya mean by “don’t work”? They don’t turn on? Circuit breakers flippin’?


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#6 posted 11-22-2011 09:29 PM

I mean that when I plug my saw in, my compressor or anything that draws up to 13 amps……….it trips the breaker and there is nothing else plugged into the series of outlets

Go to another job site………same amp breaker, never trips the breaker


-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#7 posted 11-23-2011 12:46 AM

One more. your plugging in one tool and trying another one that has a dead battery :))

-- Custom furniture

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#8 posted 11-23-2011 03:16 AM

Same reason there was a truck in my neighborhood on the way home tonight, where there’s only one way in, backed out of its driveway, perpendicular into the street, exactly as long as the street is wide, that had died and wouldn’t start. To wit:


-- "A man may conduct himself well in both adversity and good fortune, but if you want to test his character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

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#9 posted 11-23-2011 10:21 AM

How old is the circuit breaker.. if wire size is correct on both ends. Than I’d suspect the circuit breaker is faulty

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#10 posted 11-23-2011 03:52 PM

funny comments and thank you

all sites are brand new, new building, new electrical

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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#11 posted 11-23-2011 04:29 PM

It’s another indication that Murphy’s law is always at work – just like law of gravity – if it can go wrong it will go wrong -

sooner or later – probably sooner. ;-|

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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#12 posted 11-23-2011 08:07 PM

Ring main vs spur socket. Don’t ask me what the difference is because I’m not an electrician. But I know my planer/thicknesser eats fuses when its plugged into one particular socket in my workshop and works fine on the others. My 110v transformer often trips the breaker.

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#13 posted 11-23-2011 11:06 PM

The make of the breaker can have a cause, SquareD or Cutler Hammer have a better action tripping where it is supposed to and ones like Sylvania will trip way past the correct rating (20 amp circuit should trip at 16 amps continuous load – 80% load).
Any loose connection or damage to the line can cause an increase in amperage draw added to the tools draw.
As a tool gets older it will slowly increase amperage draw from degradation also what load is used on it like a saw can increase the draw past the rating, do not assume the draw on a tool is what is stated on the label.
Job site connections are required to be GFI, some tools will start to bleed to ground as they wear and that will cause GFI to trip, along with additional moisture cam cause them to trip. Some improper electricians remove the GFI after in inspection for reduced tripping but is not supposed to be done.

Most of the time that these occur the people are complaining about it working properly (tripping the circuit) and think the improper operation (does not trip the circuit) as the correct situation.

-- Brian

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#14 posted 11-24-2011 05:59 PM

Good to know, thanks Brian

-- "Good artists borrow, great artists steal”…..Picasso

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