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leonmcd

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2274 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: google ad traffic canes mark decou ranking search engine tip marketing

In order to drive traffic to your website/store you need to crank up your search engine rating.

I recently learned of the following technique to boost your rating.

  1. Gather up some ad copy that includes a link to your website/store and lots of keywords to search on. Your going to post a lot of these so make sure that you also add links between each of the pages to all the other posts you are making. The more links the better.
  2. Find a popular website that draws thousands of views a day. A site like LumberJocks.
  3. Flood the site with posts of your ad copy. Might want to pace yourself. Five or six a day for a few weeks should be good.
  4. Get some buddies to go to all your posts and add comments. The more hits the better.

I really can’t take credit for this strategy. It would never have occured to me to use the LumberJocks site like this to boost my business.

I got this technique from fellow LumberJock Mark DeCou. You might have noticed his cane ”projects”.

-- Leon -- Houston, TX - " I create all my own designs and it looks like it "


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john

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#1 posted 2274 days ago

It also works if you use the same name ( Extreme Birdhouses ) all the time and if you are on a ton of sites . How do you know what your rank is ?

-- John in Belgrave (Website) http://www.extremebirdhouse.com , http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=112698715866

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GaryK

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#2 posted 2274 days ago

So you are saying that we have a few more weeks of Marks postings?

-- Gary - Never pass up the opportunity to make a mistake look like you planned it that way - Tyler, TX

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leonmcd

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#3 posted 2274 days ago

John,
I don’t know how you can “know what your rank is”. Basically you are trying to show up as the first item on the first page of the search engine for your search phrase. Takes a while for an assault like Mark’s to register with the search engines, so it’s too early to tell how effective his strategy is.

Gary,
Think I’ll just duck down and stay away from the “projects” page until the “cane” storm blows over.

At the rate he is going, if he only has 100 left it should be safe to check out the projects page in another two or three weeks. Unless he decides to repost them in case anyone missed them. lol

-- Leon -- Houston, TX - " I create all my own designs and it looks like it "

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CharlieM1958

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#4 posted 2274 days ago

I hate to be the one to say it, bit it would take away from my enjoyment of the Lumberjocks site if we had a bunch of people using this technique.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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leonmcd

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#5 posted 2274 days ago

Charlie,
I know what you’re talking about. My enjoyment already has a dent in it with just one guy doing this.

-- Leon -- Houston, TX - " I create all my own designs and it looks like it "

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Joey

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#6 posted 2274 days ago

An easier way than doing a bunch of posts is just to pay for it. My site is done through godaddy.com. You can pay an extra $30 a year and they will push your site for you.

-- Joey, Magee, Ms http://woodnwaresms.com

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dennis mitchell

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#7 posted 2274 days ago

We don’t see much of Mark anymore, but if you do enjoy the “feeling” of LumberJocks you can thank Mark. I am one of his “buddies”, because he was instrumental in the early fellowship you find here. Yes he has used LumberJocks to help his business but he has spent a lot more time encouraging others. Many of his post are purely educational. I feel fortunate to know him.

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scott shangraw

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#8 posted 2274 days ago

I agree with Dennis.Mark always has inspirational “things”to share with us from profesional path to just good stories he tells.How hard is it for you to skip past a picture if you don’t like it.Like I stated before “some”individuals I think are starting to make the pros feel unwelcomed here.I think this web page would be very boring if all of the individuals here that do this for a living left the site.How much would you like looking at only table saw sleds and sandpaper holders all day.No offense to anyone but I think the mixture of pros,want to be pros,hobbiest and amatures is what has made me keep coming back for 393 days and not getting bored with the site .

-- Scott NM,http://www.shangrilawoodworks.com

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closetguy

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#9 posted 2274 days ago

Ranking is determined by relevance. The relevance is determined by the words identified in the “Keywords” metaname field on each web page. For example, if your web site sells wood clocks and your keywords are “clocks, woodworking, custom made, maple, walnut” then a google or yahoo search on “clocks” compares keyword relevance and ranks this page low because it only has one reference to the search term.

However, if your keys words are “clocks, wood clocks, maple clocks, walnut clocks, custom clocks, handmade clocks” then a search will rank this page high because it contains a high occurance of the search term which is “clocks”.

It doesn’t mean you’ll be at the top of the list, but it makes a difference between being on the first or second page compared to page 15.

Last year if you typed “closets” followed by any city in Georgia, my web site came up as #1 on google and yahoo. However, this cost me $1500 per month. I finally dropped it last fall, but it was an interesting marketing experiment.

-- I don't make mistakes, only design changes....www.dgmwoodworks.com

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CharlieM1958

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#10 posted 2274 days ago

Scott and Dennis, don’t read too much into what I said. I love to look at Mark’s work, and I know that he is always willing to give help and advice to those of us at a lower skill level.

The business with the canes hasn’t been any big deal to me. Some I looked at, some I passed over. But I’m just saying…. if it got to the point where there were 20 or 30 pros doing the same sort of thing at any given time, I do think it would detract from the experience we all enjoy here.

I’m not suggesting any “rule” about this. If everybody uses the same common sense and courtesy we usually see around here, we’ll be okay.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Joey

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#11 posted 2274 days ago

I can understand what Mark is doing. If you’re running a business or trying to grow your business, you’re always on the lookout for ways to do that. I just started my own website and trying to do the same thing, just not posting that much, I guess I could take better pics of my utensils and post here. Anyone for a spoon avalanche. Most of the guys here are great, it’s by far one of the best message boards I’ve ever been apart of and the members here are friendly and haven’t gotten into the rudeness of some other sites. I love looking at all of the different styles and designs. It’s made me go back and look at how I started woodworking and the things I was building then and compare them to what I do now. I’ve gotten to a point where I’m not quite a pro (yet, hopefully) but I hope to one day. I have started selling pieces and making pieces that are designed by me and the future owner.
I think as long as the site stays as something people can go to to get advice or offer advice, it will remain a great site.

-- Joey, Magee, Ms http://woodnwaresms.com

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toyguy

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#12 posted 2273 days ago

I can understand this method as well… However I do not agree with it. The cane posts have gotten out of hand. I think using LJ in this manner is just plain wrong. I don’t want to stop anyone from making a go of their business, but not at the expense of the lumberjock community. Maybe this guy should spend a buck on some advertising.

Just my 2 cents worth.

-- Brian, Ontario Canada,

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Ad Marketing Guy - Bill

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#13 posted 2273 days ago

Let me repeat an earlier posting:
My Company employs 2 Full Time Search Engine Optimization (SEO) people, – We are a affiliated/ranked Google Ad Professional Firm with a Platinum rating, one of my employees above lectures on SEO at Industrywide seminars -

We administer/manage for clients over $300,000 per month almost $4-million per year on just online advertising – I lecture at SBA seminars on adverstising and marketing, including an online presence. so I can speak with some authority on this subject.

What you post is not wrong but it is not right – that constitues about a 10% weighted average to your search engine viability – while it may help it is a small part of search criteris that search engines use. Those types of behaviors you describe will add to the relevancy of this site not your own.

The most important criteria you must have is a relevant site, with relevant/ useful content, and sound architecturial structure to make it visiable to search engines.

I am planning on starting a Blog on this site on Planning, Developing, Building and Growing a Business. I believe I will include an entire posting to websites, online presence and internet marketing. I think that experience maybe beneficial to many of the LJ’s who may wish to do this full-time but lack skillsets to develop the business. It may also be a word to the wise in saving your money.

-- Bill - - Ad-Marketing Guy, Ramsey NJ

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CharlieM1958

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#14 posted 2273 days ago

Bill, I think that would be a great way of contributing your expertise. It exemplifies the helpful spirit of this site, and would surely be of great interest to any pro or would-be-pro woodworkers here.

And one other thing: As I said above, I’m not looking to make a rule, but….

Thinking back to Leon’s earlier topic about multiple project postings, and taking into consideration the issues discussed in this topic, I still say that a suggested posting frequency of no more than one project per day would be a good thing.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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toyguy

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#15 posted 2273 days ago

I agree with you on that one for sure Charlie… no more that one project post per day. Even that seems a little too often… I can’t build them that fast.

-- Brian, Ontario Canada,

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