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Forum topic by Greg posted 11-20-2011 07:22 AM 3203 views 1 time favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-20-2011 07:22 AM

I remember reading somewhere that Titebond makes a Titebond III formula with an even longer open time that the standard TBIII. I can’t remember where I read it, and cannot find anything online about where to obtain it or if it even exists. Hope someone out there can help!

Thanks in advance!

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#1 posted 11-20-2011 03:22 PM

Titebond III claims to have a longer open time than the other flavors. The only one I’ve seen is II.
http://www.wwhardware.com/titebond-ii-premium-extend-water-resistant-wood-glue-f413.html

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#2 posted 11-20-2011 04:48 PM

I haven’t heard of extended TBIII; only II.
I use TBIII exclusively and love it for the longer open time and lower working temp.

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#3 posted 11-20-2011 08:23 PM

I used the Extended Titebond (think it was II) on a recent project, but was surprised how quickly it did start to firm up, was definitely less than the 30 minutes advertised.

I could have used another 10 minutes for assembly…

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#4 posted 11-20-2011 08:56 PM

Thanks for all the great replies so far. I am looking for about 25 minutes, but DO NOT want to use epoxy because of teh cleanup mess. If anyone has any ideas on how that could be minimzed, I am all ears. I think epoxy might stick to my forms too.

Perhaps I read it wrong and it was TBII Extend that I read about, but I could have sworn it was III.

TBIII works for me, but not in hot weather, and again, I am always stressed out when gluing up.

-- You don't have a custom made heirloom fly fishing Net? http://www.Sierra-Nets.com

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#5 posted 11-20-2011 09:07 PM

If you need a longer open time then you might try Hide Glue…..it has great open time and luthiers use it all the time making instruments, etc., like when they have to glue on a guitar bridge or a neck….I’ve used it, also, when I built guitars and a mandolin….But I mainly use the Titebond Extend to get a little more glue-up time…..I like the Extend and III.

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#6 posted 11-20-2011 10:18 PM

Go to the Titebond website, www.titebond.com, for information. You can find phone numbers also. I have used TBIII for years to glue cork rings for fishing rod grips.

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#7 posted 11-21-2011 01:04 AM

http://69.215.227.140/ProductLineTB.asp?prodline=12&prodcat=3

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#8 posted 11-21-2011 06:49 PM

I wanted to add this response from Franklin, the maker of T/B III:
“Greg,
We do make Titebond Extend Original Wood Glue and Titebond II Extend Wood Glue (see attached files) which both provide an approximate 15 minute open time vs. the 10 minute open time of the Titebond III. We do not however make a Titebond III extend formulation.
If you are interested in extending the open time of Titebond III, we suggest either wetting your gluing surfaces with water prior to glue application, or you can apply a thin coat of a 50/50 mix of TB III and water prior to regular glue application to help slow down the water absorption by the wood. You may have to experiment with this for your particular application of species, wood moisture content and shop conditions (temperature and relative humidity.)
By the way, I visited your web site and your nets are GORGEOUS!
Take care,
Bee”

I like the idea of using a Glue Size (the tthinned mixture) to presoak the parts. I believe this will help me out. I have wetted the wood before, and it did extend, but I was uncertain if I was reducing the quality off the joint. Thanks again to all who contributed to this post.

-- You don't have a custom made heirloom fly fishing Net? http://www.Sierra-Nets.com

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#9 posted 11-21-2011 07:06 PM

that is quite interesting. I have never heard of the suggestion to water down wood glue (and 50/50 mix seems over the top to me), and I will admit that it sounds quite scary to me. I would think that would lead to permanent open time. :)

Now I have some experimenting to do in my shop…

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#10 posted 11-21-2011 10:16 PM

sorry, I misread the post previously. 50/50 blend was just meant as a “primer” of sorts, which makes sense. Still can’t quite get comfortable with pre-wetting the surface, but will try this and see what it does to open time.

-- PaulMayer, http://www.vernswoodgoods.com

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#11 posted 11-22-2011 05:17 AM

If you want a glue with a LONG open time try plastic resin glue (DAC Woodweld). It has an open time up to 45 minutes for really complicated glueups and lamination work. It is a powder mixed with water. Don’t breath the powder!!!! I get mine at my local Ace Hardware store.

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