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Forum topic by empeg9000 posted 11-16-2011 08:28 PM 997 views 0 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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empeg9000

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11-16-2011 08:28 PM

Hi I am building a mantel for my fireplace. It is a gas unit that sticks out from the wall a bit. I am going to build the basic case out of red oak plywood but the face and top will be quarter sawn white oak. If I stain these will be be very obvious that they are not the same type of wood? I can’t seem to fine white oak plywood around here which seems strange. Thanks for the help


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#1 posted 11-16-2011 08:44 PM

I think that it is strange that you cant find white oak ply, the local hardwood suppliers carry it in my neck of the woods. However, I think that you will be able to stain the red oak and white oak together without seeing any real difference in the finished product. I look forward to see what others say. Often times the color difference between the two is minimal. However, the ply may take stain different than the hardwood, because its ply. Test piece may help you decide. Good luck.

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#2 posted 11-16-2011 08:51 PM

This is a tough one… Staining Ply and solid together is difficult enough..

If your red oak plywood is rotary cut, I can’t see how this would ever pass for white oak. It is way too distinctive. HOWEVER, if you have a nice quarter sawn red oak plywood and you can shade your stain some, you might could pull it off.

BTW, I’ve always had good luck getting 4×8 rolled veneers shipped UPS to anywhere in the country at a reasonable price from glveneer.com—a good option if you can do lamination. They’ll even hand select to your specific criteria for a small fee.

-- "Hard work is not defined by the difficulty of the task as much as a person's desire to perform it.", DS251

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#3 posted 11-16-2011 08:53 PM

Depending on how dark you stain it, I think the differences in the grain pattern is going to be more obvious than the color variation of the wood, assuming you’re using flat sawn red oak plywood, not quartersawn red oak plywood.

You might want to consider at least using a sanding sealer and possibly a dye under the stain. The dye will help to even the color tones out, and the sanding sealer will allow the stain to work evenly between the plywood and hardwood.

-- Jonathan, Denver, CO "Constructive criticism is welcome and valued as it gives me new perspectives and helps me to advance as a woodworker."

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#4 posted 11-16-2011 09:08 PM

Use a shellac (de-waxed) as a sealer, use a dye for whatever color you wish, finish with a wiping varnish (I use water based stuff).
Big trick:
LET THE SHELLAC/DYE CURE. Most probs occur when the finish is “pushed” as in hurried.
Light sanding of the shellac to remove any nibs, apply the dye by wiping, let it cure/dry, apply the top coats.
Experiment on test pieces to get the color. You might even need to tint the finish coats to achieve an even color.
I use woven pads for the rubbing (sanding) between coats when using water-based finishes.
Bill

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#5 posted 11-16-2011 09:10 PM

^Great advice Bill.

-- Jonathan, Denver, CO "Constructive criticism is welcome and valued as it gives me new perspectives and helps me to advance as a woodworker."

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