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Forum topic by David Grimes posted 11-13-2011 12:48 PM 4016 views 0 times favorited 20 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-13-2011 12:48 PM

Topic tags/keywords: overhang router jig

I’ve never before seen this setup. I came across it at the MyLesPaul forum. It looks very simple to make and would be very useful with working templates. There are surely other uses as well.

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia


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#1 posted 11-13-2011 02:46 PM

Here’s what I use.
The set up in the picture you posted is MUCH cheaper and simpler, though.

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#2 posted 11-13-2011 02:49 PM

What on Earth is that thing, Gene?

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#3 posted 11-13-2011 04:46 PM

They are called over arm routers and yes they can be very useful for pattern work. And I do like that simple idea.
MIKE
http://home.comcast.net/~day_trippr/overarm_router.htm

http://www.grizzly.com/products/G0587

http://toolguyd.com/2010/02/homemade-overarm-pin-router-free-plans-discussion/

http://www.shopsmith.com/academy/routing2/index.htm

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#4 posted 11-13-2011 07:05 PM

Al,
Mike’s link for the Shopsmith has a picture of the free standing unit like mine. The one I pictured is set up ON the Shopsmith. Not too handy.
I do quite a bit of pattern work. Before last Christmas wife and I made a few dozen of 3 different toy vehicles for a local charity. The fenders were all the same, so I made a template and routed them all on the over arm.
We make several different types of curvy mirror and picture frames with it, too.
Occasionally, I’ll do mortises with it, also.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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Bertha

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#5 posted 11-13-2011 07:15 PM

Ah, I understand now. It was the ShopSmith part that was confusing me;)

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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shipwright

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#6 posted 11-13-2011 09:26 PM

You can accomplish a pin router that works very well really cheap by incorporating your drill press. http://lumberjocks.com/projects/49400

Just another angle on it.

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#7 posted 11-13-2011 11:12 PM

Thanks, all. It is so cool that no matter what I come across, several somebodies on this diverse forum has great supplemental information. :=)

I have a spare unused plunge router, so I guess the home made route (NPI) will be the way I do this… much like the picture. That ShopSmith is so cool. I would love to pick up a used one of those and use the upper arm and router base part for my needs.

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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Roger Clark aka Rex

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#8 posted 11-14-2011 01:25 AM

If you want to use that plunge router,, then you might take a look at: http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=43038&cat=1,43000 or
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/daisypin.html

They do work.

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#9 posted 11-14-2011 01:53 PM

Roger – Those are great especally the MLCS one I can easily build that. This IS a great place for ideas.
MIKE

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#10 posted 11-15-2011 08:26 PM

After looking at it I also think the one David Grimes posted is much more simple to construct, but also incorporating some of the features of the one Gene Howe posted would make it somewhat more useful. I have most everything I need on hand already so the cost will be minimal right out of the chute which gives me the incentive to build one. The only thing different I will do is utilize my Ridgid Trim Router rather than a full size router and also incorporate an adapter to use my Dremel tool. Using it for inlays would be a major improvement because it would be easier to move the wood to follow pattern lines than moving a router over the pattern. Also the router base plate obstructs the view to a certain degree and with the overhead router the pattern is openly visible. I had considered a Pin Router, but after seeing these pictures I can build one for a fraction of the Pin Router cost.

-- If it won't fit get a BIGGER hammer.

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#11 posted 11-15-2011 08:58 PM

I have used my Radial Arm Saw as an over top router… A number of the older RAS’s had a collate for a router bit on the motor.

The RPM’s aret as fast as a large router but for using as a pin router or detail work the RAS router can handle it with no problem… With the RAS you all ready have the ability to easily raise and lower the bit by cranking the handle, you have the sliding arm, and you can turn the motor at different angles very easy. I know this attachment was not very popular but I think a lot of people would be surprised how useful it can be.

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#12 posted 11-15-2011 09:02 PM

@KenBee, My thinking exactly…

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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#13 posted 11-15-2011 09:21 PM

Gee, doesn’t anybody own/use an ‘Onsrud Pin Router’ anymore? They were the greatest. Like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fImHwaotKJQ&feature=related

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#14 posted 11-15-2011 09:39 PM

OK, so here’s some machines from Grizzly:
http://www.grizzly.com/products/Bench-Top-Overarm-Router/G0587
http://www.grizzly.com/products/Overarm-High-Speed-Router/G8030
http://www.grizzly.com/products/5-HP-Overarm-Router-2-Speed-3-Phase/G9981
They are currently available.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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KenBee

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#15 posted 11-15-2011 10:14 PM

Roger Clark aka Rex….Those are fine but look at the cost. With what I have on hand and the parts I need to build one I could have one that does the same thing as the high cost ones for around $30.00 or less. It is the same with woodworking jigs & plans, show me a picture and I will build it without spending money on a plan. The measurements may not be the same, but the outcome will look the same. The type of wood may be different than pictured but then again how many woodworkers always use the same exact wood called for in a plan?

-- If it won't fit get a BIGGER hammer.

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