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Betsy

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1019 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: velcro drum sander hook and loop

If you’ve read my blog (if you haven’t – you’ve not missed much!) I’m having trouble with being able to open the paper clamps without making my hands spasm. Someone suggested using hook and loop paper. I’ve been looking over the site and I found several discussions about hook and loop – but I’ve not found the answers to my questions. So fellow LJs here are some questions (and yes some of these questions are going to make you roll your eyes a bit – but please bear with me).

I have a Delta X5 36” drum sander. It’s a workhorse and has done a great job for about 10 years now and it’s still got a lot in its tank.

1) Does the paper come with the hook or the loop? In other words what adhesive backed material do I get to apply to the drum – hook or loop? (I’ve seen on some paper sites that I can buy hook paper or loop paper but does it matter which goes on the drum?)

2) Can I apply the velcro on to the drum in a straight line as opposed to diagonally as the paper goes on now?

3) I read a little about centrifugal force as an issue. I don’t get it. I would think that the force of the drum spinning at whatever rpm it’s going at would keep the paper solid against the drum – but from what I read that’s not the case.

4) One post alluded to still having to use the clamps with velcro paper – did I read that right? If so, that doesn’t really solve my problem of not being able to open the clamps to accept the paper.

5) How long can I expect the velcro covering on my drum to last? Is it effected by the heat? Will it take ten men and a boy to get it off the drum to replace it?

Okay guys and gals – let me know your thoughts. This is a pressing issue for me as I’ve got six cutting boards I’d like to get sanding and ready to go for Christmas gifts.

Thanks in advance.

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Mickey Cassiba

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#1 posted 1019 days ago

In my years at Delta, I never saw an OEM, or aftermarket H&L system for the drum sander. That is not to say that there isn’t one…I just never saw it. I agree that the clamps are awkward, and difficult to engage. Pretty hard to get a smooth surface to as there always seems to be a ‘bubble’ at the end of the roll. When installing the paper on the refurbished machines we sent out, I always ‘smoothed’ the end of the roll into the clamp with one of those gum rubber cleaning sticks while holding the clamp open with a small pair of vice grips.
HTH

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patron

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#2 posted 1019 days ago

check this out
there is a link
(in blue)

http://lumberjocks.com/dustbunny/blog/17180

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Pm her if you need
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dustbunny

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#3 posted 1019 days ago

Logged on this morning and my ears were burning.
Thanks David. I know you have held your breath many times : )

Betsy, I did a lot of pricing research, the kit from Grizzly is by far the MOST economical.
My post pretty much covers your questions except heat generation.
Hook and loop is not designed to allow the paper to sit tight on the drum.
There is a slight gap between paper and drum loop. This actually allows for cooling as the sander is working.
It is recommended to reposition the paper if the hooks become compressed from too much pressure, this generates heat.
I have never had a second thought about converting to H & L . The paper has yet to move and overlap like the paper tensioned on drum. The directions are easy to follow, and requires no tensioning. EASY.
The kit rolls are two hook to apply to a dual 24” sander equaling 48” of velcro. You can add on with the second roll to meet your 36” drum size, and cut off the excess. The paper may be useless to you as it is precut for the kit, but still the price is worth it just for the drum velcro.

Hope this has been helpful : )

David…. : P

Lisa

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tenontim

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#4 posted 1019 days ago

Betsy, here’s two places to get the velcro and the paper. I have a Woodmaster sander and have used it commercially for about 2 years. I’ve got over 50 hours on the original velcro and it’s still go a lot of miles to go. You should be able to retrofit some of this to the Delta. You won’t need the clamp to hold the end of the paper. On mine, I just wrap a couple of turns of 1/2” reinforced packing tape around the left end (looking from the feed in side) of the paper. That keeps it from unwrapping in case the lumber catches the end. Easy and works great.
http://www.woodmastertools.com/s/acces.cfm?CID=7&Start=11
http://www.onlineindustrialsupply.com/3indrsarohlo.html

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Les

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#5 posted 1019 days ago

I agree with Tim, I have a Woodmaster 26” I bought from a newspaper add and have never known anything else. I removed the velcro from the drum and replaced it right after I got it. Nothing to it. It works great if you keep sandpaper strips precut it doesn’t take long to replace.

Les

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Betsy

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#6 posted 1018 days ago

Thanks for the help. I’ll check out the kits and the sites posted. I knew my fellow LJs would have the answers!

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