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Forum topic by tirebob posted 11-08-2011 11:12 PM 1248 views 0 times favorited 35 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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11-08-2011 11:12 PM

  • WARNING!!! This video is G rated almost the entire way but then has some heavy cursing and swearing near the end. If you are sensitive and may be offended by this, please don’t watch!!! WARNING!!! * Also, mods if this needs to me moved I understand…

Title – “I WANT TO BUY A PLANE”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4py2rvL0_3E&feature=player_embedded!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4py2rvL0_3E&feature=player_embedded!


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#1 posted 11-08-2011 11:22 PM

That is FUNNY!

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#2 posted 11-09-2011 01:04 AM

that is a lot of money…

-- Randy "You are judged as much by the questions you ask as the answers you give..."

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#3 posted 11-09-2011 01:43 AM

wanna buy a plane?

-- Darrell, making more sawdust than I know what to do with

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#4 posted 11-09-2011 02:20 AM

Bottom line… Quality costs money.

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#5 posted 11-09-2011 02:29 AM

Interesting video. Jeremy’s point is well taken, but the whole time I’m thinking that the guy should just buy a vintage Bailey or Bedrock and save some dough. That said, I’d love to have an LN plane—-maybe for xmas. :-)

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#6 posted 11-09-2011 04:30 AM

That was pretty funny. But I can tell you its the truth. I sold my Lie Nielsen’s for almost what I paid for them. They are a bargain.

But $300 is still a lot of money!

-- Like a bad penny, I keep coming back!

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#7 posted 11-09-2011 04:50 AM

That is funny, thanks for posting.

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#8 posted 11-09-2011 05:08 AM

300….that seems like….a deal?

-- I came, I was conquered, I was born again. ἵνα ὦσιν ἓν

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#9 posted 11-09-2011 05:13 AM

$300 for a high quality tool you will pass on to your grand children isn’t the point. Fact is, a maker of fine furniture uses at about 10 different planes, and that’s just one type of tool he needs. $300 here, $300 there, after the first few dozen tools, it starts to add up a bit! So you will never hear me belittle someone for saying that LN planes are over priced. I’ll never argue against their quality, and they can charge every cent anyone is willing to pay. But I understand why the little teddy bear (or is he a puppy) wants to go to the second hand store…

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#10 posted 11-09-2011 06:12 AM

It’s not only funny but very smart.

The point of the video is the irony of this “guy” wanting to build fine furniture and educate people on the value of such quality because he’s tired of crappy, cheap Walmart-type furniture made for pennies in China. But then, he only wants to spend $5 on an essential tool for making fine furniture and can’t see the irony even when it’s explained to him over and over again.

It captures the American consumer’s Walmart mindset perfectly – we’re morons.

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#11 posted 11-09-2011 03:20 PM

The people that take 6 hours flattening the sole, removing some paint, and sharpening the blade will never get much furniture made anyway. Save the other $30 and use a sheet of glass. I’ve never used a LN, and at that price, never will. Seriously, there is not a lot to hand plane. I’m sure they are high quality, but I’d say they are still overpriced. It’s true what Stumpy said about the cumulative costs of all the tools you need. Not everyone wants to have to put a screwing to their customers to make up for it.

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#12 posted 11-09-2011 03:54 PM

amazing…

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#13 posted 11-09-2011 04:13 PM

I think I have had that conversation verbatim at some point. It made me laugh and made me sad.

I have a mixed bag of old and new tools. All of them are quality tools. In the case of a new tool I am paying the cost to hand this to another generation. My Lie Nielsen chisel is worth the $60 bucks to me because it’s the last 1/4 inch chisel I will need and most likely one of my grand-kids will get to grind it to filings. In the case of an old tool I am thankful that someone cared enough to buy a quality tool that I can use over 100 years later.

Both of them are bargains compared to the junk that gets peddled at the home stores.

-- Make furniture that lasts as long as the tree - Ryan

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#14 posted 11-09-2011 04:14 PM

pierce85 – Well summed up sir!

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#15 posted 11-09-2011 04:15 PM

I work on a computer a lot. When my office needs a new computer, I spend the extra for the best quality I can get. But if I had to get TEN computers, a half dozen different printers, a verity of scanners, routers, servers, modems, office chairs, desks, book cases, sound systems, input devices, lamps, etc- I would have to make some compromises on price or else go out of business!

NOW- if I already had everything, THEN I would consider replacing tools one at a time with top of the line as the need arose.

Those planes are great. I’d buy nothing buy LNs if I could. But very few people can unless the want to use their teeth instead of the other essential shop machines and hand tools.

Of course, few of the hoity-toity fru-fru TOOL NERDS are actually using a shop full of those $300 planes, $350 chisel sets and $250 dovetail saws EXCLUSIVELY to make a living. I bet you would find DOZENS of less that top quality tools in their shops.

It’s easy to sip your sherry and smoke your pipe and look down on us through your eye monocle and say “I use nothing but LN- you riff-raff!” when you don’t have to own 200 different tools!

(I’m not taking about anyone here in particular)

-- It's the best woodworking show since the invention of wood... New episodes at: http://www.stumpynubs.com

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