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Forum topic by BerBer5985 posted 11-03-2011 07:18 PM 2511 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BerBer5985

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11-03-2011 07:18 PM

I’ve been browsing around his site and watching some of the videos and it’s amazing what he can do with hand tools. I’ve been thinking of attending his 2 classes coming to VA in december on Handplanes and Dovetails. But if I can’t, I might purchase some videos of his. There is his original Dovetail dvd and then there’s a new one called Dovetailing 2.0. Has anyone purchased, used, or seen his videos? What would be the one to get? The newer version, older version, etc. Any good recommendations. Also, he sells a fret saw that I would like to pick up, but it’s $47 with blades and it looks similar to other saws sold for about half as much without the “hockey tape” wrapping. Worth it, or stick with a cheaper version?

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com


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#1 posted 11-03-2011 09:18 PM

I have not seen his videos, but I did attend the 2 classes you mentioned when he was in Denver. I think it is a day well spent. He talked about the “hockey tape” wrapping. Basically, he likes it for the extra grip and control you get. It doesn’t seem that important to me, but he makes much nicer work than I do, so maybe that is 1 small part if it. :) During the class, he cut a dovetail, while talking through the process, in less that 12 minutes! I aspire cut one dovetail that nice in my life, and he was only moderately satisfied with the result! I did learn enough that it was worthwhile attending the class. After attending, now I feel like I should get the 2.0 video to learn some more.

He mentioned the Dovetails 2.0 as well. Without seeing either of them, I believe 2.0 is just an updated version of the first one. I recall he did some things, or didn’t do some things in the first that he wanted to improve on. I think the Dovetail video is the first one he ever put out, so it was low-budget. After he had some success, it was worthwhile to update the video to 2.0 to improve on the things he wanted to.

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#2 posted 11-04-2011 03:37 AM

I have his video and booklet on basic dovetailing. The book is pretty good, but the DVD would be better used as a coaster. It just seems to be a promotion for itself, with no substance. If you can get the book by itself, do that, then watch his 3 1/2 minute dovetail video on youtube. It tells and shows you more in those 3 1/2 minutes than the entire commercially-sold video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxIgNel0H_I

I got this fretsaw. I’m lucky that I have one of the Woodworkers Supply stores locally, so I can avoid shipping. It appears identical to his, including the extra tension adjustment at the forward screw. It’s at the bottom of the list on this page, part #114-884. The handle is really small, even for my girlie-man hands, so I threw some friction tape on it. It certainly doesn’t hurt, and it only took 30 seconds.

http://woodworker.com/24-rip-saw-mssu-873-735.asp

I just made this a couple of nights ago. Big Box poplar 1×4. It’s my first. Hope they get better.


-- "A man may conduct himself well in both adversity and good fortune, but if you want to test his character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

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#3 posted 11-04-2011 05:33 AM

nice work, the fretsaw you have is probaly a jewlers saw, with smaller handle. it works the same, and alot cheaper

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#4 posted 11-04-2011 07:08 AM

Here’s 4 sides brazillian cherry I worked on tonight. I need to figure out what top I want to put on it and what bottom to put in, but I had it laying around,so here ya go. About 3 hours worth of work later.

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com

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JJohnston

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#5 posted 11-04-2011 02:32 PM

Doesn’t look like you need any of Cosman’s materials.

-- "A man may conduct himself well in both adversity and good fortune, but if you want to test his character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln

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BerBer5985

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#6 posted 11-04-2011 03:20 PM

Thanks but I think the pictures make it look better than it is. It’s not bad for my first attempt at making a complete box. Im mad because after I got done, I notice a hairline split in one of the pieces of wood. I’m still gonna finish it up with a top and bottom just for fun and experience and probably give it my mother or something but still it sucks to get done cutting all the dovetails to realize it.

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com

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BerBer5985

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#7 posted 11-04-2011 04:31 PM

Ok that’s good info. Thanks! I’ve learned watching several you tube videos but im finding the more I practice, the more techniques I learn to make it more accurate or faster. I cut those 4 sides faster last night than my first 1. So it’s getting easier and faster. Purchase of a marking gauge was essential I think. I was just marking with pencil and the marking gauge is more accurate. Also, I think a marking knife would be a great addition since I’m using scratch awl now. One other thing I must upgrade is my chisels. The $25 set of craftsman I’ve had work, but they are really more for utility work. They are very thick blades, so thick they don’t fit in the honing guide. The cheap $3 st from harbor freight takes an edge quick but loses it just as fast. Haha! I’m thinking the narex set of 7 from lee valley would do the trick.

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com

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