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11-02-2011 03:46 PM

Topic tags/keywords: table saw community opinion question

Some one near me is selling a NIB Ridgid r4511 (granite top, 1.5hp, cabinet mounted trunion hybrid saw). I live in south Florida so cast iron worries me as my shop is not climate controlled. I am just getting started and have a used Bosch 4000 job site saw on their cart. The r4511 is going for around $500 and I am conflicted as to whether I should buy it and take the risk on the top (which apparently isn’t made any more), or use the Bosch for the next year to 18 months at which time I can afford to buy a grizzly/jet/delta/etc. of similar power and quality. I would prefer a granite top regardless because cast iron rusts in a matter of an hour or two in the rainy season. It is so bad I am seriously considering making poured concrete tops for the used jointer I purchased.

I have read a number of great reviews of the Ridgid in these forums and without them I wouldn’t even be considering it. So I am looking for opinions from the community. Thank you for your two cents.

-- Craft is the part of art that gets things done.

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#1 posted 11-02-2011 03:58 PM

You more than likely would be very happy with this saw however the sell price is too high in my opinion. That little voice in the back of my head keeps saying that HD clearanced out this saw for around $400.

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#2 posted 11-02-2011 04:19 PM

I had that saw before I got my sawstop. I really liked the granite put a little wax on it and it was super slick. I would go for it. I never had any issues with the top but I will give you two warnings about it. If you can follow these golden rules you should not have in issue with it.

Golden rule #1: Do not use the saw as a work bench.
Golden rule #2: Do not try to life the miter gauge our of the slot. Instead slide it out all of the way.

If you can follow those two rules it is a great saw. I really liked it.

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Bill White

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#3 posted 11-02-2011 04:21 PM

I’ve sold a zillion pounds/tons of granite countertops without a breakage problem even though it could happen at any time. It is a natural product after all. My only fear would be that something could be dropped on the top.
Use a granite sealer about every 6 months to keep the pores topped up.
I can’t imagine being able to get concrete flat enough for a jointer. But what do I know?


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#4 posted 11-02-2011 06:14 PM

When I lived near the beach and had my table saw only semi-covered,
I would have loved to have a granite top. It would have saved me lots
of scrubbing after every rain. I used tarps and stuff to control the
moisture of course, but it was always a battle.

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#5 posted 11-02-2011 06:30 PM

I say go for it as the saw is great – but priced a bit high in my opinion. should be in the 300-400 for a NIB.

I am using a miter gauge without the T nut so there is no issue of messing up the granite T slot. but regardless the proper way to remove a Miter gauge is by pushing it all the way FORWARD and lifting it – not by pulling it backwards towards you and lifting it from the back.

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#6 posted 11-02-2011 06:38 PM

I have that saw, bought it used from a guy who admittedly got it on the HD closeout for $400. His asking price for a 2 year old used saw was $400 and originally I was pretty torqued that he was expecting new price money for used equipment! As I did my research, I found that an equivalent new saw (Steel City and Craftsman for granite) would cost me around $1000 after tax and shipping, so I went ahead and went to see the saw.

When I got there, I ran a piece of 4/4 red oak through it and the saw barely noticed it was there. I realized that it was still a good deal at his asking price. I begged him down to $380 but honestly would have given him the $400 based on what it would have cost me to get a comparable granite topped saw. He reluctantly agreed to $380, then threw in a brand new dado stack, cross-cut sled, a handful of ripping blades, and pushsticks.

Like syenefarmer, the little voice in the back of my head is screaming that $500 for a saw that cost the guy $400 is a rip but you have to assess what it’s worth to YOU. You honestly will not be able to get an equivalent new saw with a granite top for that price, especially one that has never been used! If you go with cast iron, your options obviously expand greatly.

I love my 4511 and for what I do cannot envision that I’ll ever need more saw. The granite top has been flawless and I have had no issues whatsoever. Whatever you do though, make sure that you check the top and wings to ensure that they aren’t cracked before you buy it. Good luck with whatever you decide.

-- If it ain't broke, take it apart and find out why

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#7 posted 11-02-2011 06:41 PM

This is a relatively minor point but this is one reason that I would not want a granite top.

I use a feather board a lot. I think they are a very good idea in many situations. My favorite feather board attaches to my table saw top with a powerful magnet. I could not use that feather board with a granite top.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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#8 posted 11-02-2011 07:15 PM

I have the r4511 as well and it has performed pretty well for me this past year and half. The main issue is the fence, which I don’t like very much because it sits on a rail comprised of two pieces. It handles most everything I put in its path pretty well. For me, a regular kerf blade works better than the thin kerf. You do have to be careful about the granite. I’ve added a few nicks to it, but the granite has held up pretty well. I purchased the saw used for $280, then I asked the previous owner what he paid for it, he said $250 from HD (I have the receipt). He used the saw to build a deck, then made a $30 profit off of it! But I still felt $280 was a good price. Like the others have said, it’s a good saw but I’d try to talk him down to at least $400.

-- "hold fast to that which is good"

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#9 posted 11-02-2011 10:01 PM

I must be lucky, I am in central FL and work in my garage and have never had a big problem with rust. I would think our climates are fairly similar. On topic, I was looking for a R4511 initially and I think they are pretty hard to find now a days after HD stopped selling them. I would probably go for it as long as it’s in good condition.

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#10 posted 11-02-2011 10:13 PM

I’ with Richgreer.
Magnets can be very useful for featherboards, indicators etc.
Also CR1 has a very valid case for dehumidifying.
Is anyone still making new granite tablesaws? This may answer a lot of questions.

-- When I was a boy, I was told "anyone can be President", now I'm beginning to believe it!

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#11 posted 11-02-2011 10:18 PM

Not sure if this helps you decide, but the newer model R4512 has a cast-iron CORE table. Possibly they’ve got some other coating on top (aluminum alloy maybe?). You might check it out or call Ridgid to see what’s actually on the surface, since the R4512 sells for $530 new at HD.

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#12 posted 11-02-2011 10:32 PM

Most of the reviews I’ve read of this saw have been favorable, but I agree that the asking price is a little high. $400 would be more like it.

I live in the New Orleans area, which is just as humid as Florida most of the year, and I really don’t have any problems at all with rust on my cast iron saw top in my non-air conditioned garage.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#13 posted 11-02-2011 10:40 PM

While I don’t have this, or any other Cast Iron topped table saw (mine has an aluminum top, not so great for mass that’s for sure!) but I do have a big of Cast Iron in my shop, and in the Houston metro area, within a 5 minute drive to Galveston Bay, I know what hot, humid, and salty is… Keeping your machine tops coated with a sealer, or wax keeps them nice and rust free…

As far as the R4511 you refer to, the seller is asking too much. $350.00 to $400.00 tops… Even though it is NIB, you don’t get the warranty as you aren’t the original purchaser, so the value for that is out the window…

I have heard of more than a few of these where the top cracked and had to be replaced… I know there are guys that love their granite topped machines, but I am not willing to take the chance on that quite yet…

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#14 posted 11-03-2011 12:13 AM

I am less than a mile to the Atlantic, so Houston and New Orleans are apt comparisons. Thank you for sharing your experiences.

I am a bit concerned about the warranty and the possibility of a cracked top. My alternative is going for the Grizzly G0715p in a year or so. However the Ridgid has cabinet mounted trunions. I have no idea how that effects the operation of the saw or what the relative merits are of cabinet vs. top mounted trunions are. The Grizzly has 2hp vs. 1.5hp. I simply want to buy the best saw I can buy for under $1000. I am currently leaning toward waiting and making do with the Bosch 4000 until I am ready to buy the G0715p. There are always unisaws and powermatics along with other big contractor and cabinet or hybrid saws available used in this area.

-- Craft is the part of art that gets things done.

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#15 posted 11-03-2011 12:41 AM

I would advise not to buy at 500.00. The saw is a good one, but not without some minor quircks. The arbor needs to be lubricated when under heavy usage because evidentally the arbor does not have a great seal and the innards dries out.

I just sold my 4511 for 350.00. I sold it because I bought a 9 year old unisaw in great condition for 400.00 that I found on CL.

Oh, and I purchased the 4511 new from HD for 299.00.

I agree to purchase a similar saw new today, you would be looking at Steel City for around 1000.00. That is grossly over priced for a this type hybrid saw when for similar money invested one could get into a true grizzly cabinet saw.

While it is a decent saw the fella is over priced. I would not personally pay more then 300.

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