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Forum topic by sarahss posted 10-27-2011 04:58 PM 613 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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sarahss

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10-27-2011 04:58 PM

I’m reading the directions for Waterlox and is tays that it can be used over most stains provided they do not contain wax or silicone or film forming stain such as a stain containing urethane or some thicker gel type stains. I know that this statement rules out all NON dewaxed shellac, but how can you determine if your stain meets the other criteria?


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PurpLev

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#1 posted 10-27-2011 05:06 PM

I think this explicit warning is more to protect them from lawsuits than anything else. It basically say not to use this over other finishing products and only over plain stains. I think this is due to all the products that are aimed at the home owners that are a mix of stain and finish, or a shaded finish that is marked up as “stain” but is really a protective material.

I think that as long as you use ‘just’ stain you’ll be fine.

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#2 posted 10-28-2011 07:23 AM

I think Perplev has it right. I would suggest a test on a piece of scrap to be sure. I have found that in most cases where I am told I can not use one thing over another, it works just fine if I let it have plenty of drying time between coats. It does not always work but most of the time you will be safe. If Waterlox is water based Urethane it will likely be tolerant of your stain.

-- Terry Roswell, L.A. (Lower Alabama) "Life is what happens to you when you are making other plans."

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#3 posted 10-29-2011 12:41 AM

Just as an FYI – Waterlox is, essentially, a tung oil that has been modified some.

I’ve used it over plain, basic Min-Wax stain (not gel stain and not any combination of stain and finish) and had no problems.

I was told by an expert once that you should let stain dry for at least 24 hours before you put anything on top of it.

-- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it.

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Bill White

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#4 posted 10-29-2011 09:13 PM

Biggest lesson I had to learn was not rushing a finish. Let the stain cure, let the top coat(s) cure, then wax/buff the finished product.
Bill

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hObOmOnk

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#5 posted 10-29-2011 09:35 PM

Note: Waterlox is a fully-cooked tung oil/phenolic resin oil-varnish not a tung oil blend.

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#6 posted 10-29-2011 09:55 PM

“how can you determine if your stain meets the other criteria?”
Have you read the label for ingredients ? If not listed , check the MSDS facts online at the manufacturers site.

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