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Forum topic by BerBer5985 posted 10-21-2011 02:24 AM 1195 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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BerBer5985

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10-21-2011 02:24 AM

I’ve been using a razor saw to hand cut with dovetails but I really like the feel of a traditional style saw handle for control. I’ve been eyeing the veritas set of 3 with the crosscut and the two dovetails. Is it worth it to get the 3 and have a crosscut saw for tenons and what not, or just get the one dovetail saw. I don’t own any handsaws except the one cheap razor saw I bought to start learning dovetails. The razor saw I bought was the Zona razor saw, but it cuts very slowly through thicker wood, like 3/4” and 1/2”. Takes me an hour to cut the dove tails. Decent little saw for the money, but I think I could get better results practicing with something like the veritas. Any thoughts?

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com


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maljr1980

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#1 posted 10-21-2011 02:33 AM

id like to learn how to handcut dovetails, but once i properly set up the omni jig at work i could dovetail all the drawers for an entire kitchen in less than an hour, and they would look flawless with no gaps of filler needed, just a mallet to get everything together. dovetail jigs and routers are a little finicky but if you learn to set everything up perfect and dedicate a router for that task and never change the bit its hard to match the precision and speed. that said i do enjoy the pictures in the magazines of jewelry boxes and such with handcut through dovetails

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#2 posted 10-21-2011 02:37 AM

Those Veritas saws are a superb starter set, with quality that will make them a lifetime saw. I sort of prefer my vintage ones, but not for anything like a performance reason. If you are interested in hand joinery other than dovetails, it is well worth getting the 3.

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TechRedneck

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#3 posted 10-21-2011 02:49 AM

I’ll be following this thread, I am interested in the Veritas as well. I do machine dovetails but am interested in a good saw for hand work.

-- Mike.... West Virginia. "Man is a tool using animal. Without tools he is nothing, with tools he is all.". T Carlyle

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BerBer5985

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#4 posted 10-21-2011 03:30 AM

Ive heard good things. I might pick up the set. They’ll last a lifetime so it might be worth the investment. I can machine them too, but there’s something special about handcut dovetails so I wanted to learn. Ive started to gain an interest in hand tools.

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com

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#5 posted 10-21-2011 03:33 AM

Ive heard good things about it. I just could not get around the look of the composite spine. Just does not feel right.

-- Yves

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#6 posted 10-21-2011 04:03 AM

I’m not sure which saws he makes but Mike of wenzloff and sons makes some of the Veritas saws for Lee Valley and he’s for sure a first class sawyer.

Joe

-- Second Chance Saw Works http://www.secondchancesawworks.com Blog: Positive Rake http://www.positiverake.com

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Arminius

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#7 posted 10-21-2011 04:15 AM

need2/Joe – Wenzloff does not make the Veritas saws. LV sells Wenzloff saws as a premium line. They are gorgeous, classic-style saws. I would not really compare the Veritas ones to Wenzloff, Gramercy, Bad Axe, and so on. But they perform in a similar range for a fraction of the cost. I have added to my collection around them, zero regrets about the purchase. If you want to start trying handcut joinery with saws that you can count on, I am not aware of a better place to start.

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need2boat

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#8 posted 10-21-2011 04:28 PM

Very good. I new Mike made some for LV I just never looked to see. I also agree, a saw can easily last 100 years. You might as well buy something good if you think you’ll be using it.

I’ve spent many a night cleaning old saws that are wonderful to use and look at but a new saw with mirror finish is wonderful in it’s own right. It takes some getting used to but using the reflection to judge the cut is simplicity at its best!

Joe

-- Second Chance Saw Works http://www.secondchancesawworks.com Blog: Positive Rake http://www.positiverake.com

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BerBer5985

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#9 posted 10-22-2011 12:59 AM

I’m ready to pull the trigger on the set of 3. I’m just waiting for the paycheck. Haha. I’ll also pick up a marking gauge since I don’t have one while I’m at it.

-- Greg, Owner, Quality Carpet One, www.qualitycarpetonecrofton.com

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