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CartersWhittling

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10-21-2011 01:06 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question o1 tool steel sources

Hello. I want to buy some O1 tool steel bars for making plane irons and other tools and am looking for a good source to buy some. I have found 2 places online but the shipping was just as much as the product and one did not tell me the shipping prices. I live in Ontario Canada, so if someone knows a Canadian source that would be helpful for shipping costs I’m sure, if not let me know anyways.
Thank you.

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thiel

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#1 posted 10-21-2011 03:05 AM

McMaster-Carr has it… and I assume they ship to Canada.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#grade-o1-steel/=ekvjng

—Thiel

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CartersWhittling

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#2 posted 10-21-2011 06:27 AM

Thanks, I looked at the site but it doesn’t say the shipping prices when you make an order?

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#3 posted 10-21-2011 12:00 PM

You could try Speedy Metals – http://www.speedymetals.com/default.aspx

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#4 posted 10-21-2011 02:11 PM

Find a metal dealer. This kind of steel is used all the time in the metal-working
industry, so go to the gritty part of town and ask the metal guys where you
can get some O1.

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CartersWhittling

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#5 posted 10-21-2011 04:24 PM

Thanks Loren, that sounds like a good idea.

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#6 posted 10-21-2011 07:52 PM

I usually buy from onlinemetals.com

Industrial suppliers will be using a couple special terms.

For ground flat stuff, ask for mill stock.

For round, ask for Drill rod (Unless they use the silver steel name in CA like they do in UK. Dunno)

The shipping will always be high. You are not buying marshmallows. The only way you will do well on the shipping is to buy enough to combine the shipping on other items.

Cheapest for plane irons is to buy them made. Lee Valley has them for under $15 for the replacement irons for the wooden planes. You couldn’t make them for that price.

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PurpLev

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#7 posted 10-21-2011 08:09 PM

I usually get metal stock from speedymetals.com which have good prices also on shipping.

I am also in agreement to David – unless you are planning on mass producing these or making some specialty custom cutters it will not be cost effective to try and make them when the alternatives out there are already pre made at a much higher quality than what you could produce (hardened and Cryogenically treated in some cases)

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#8 posted 10-21-2011 08:12 PM

That speedymetals place is really impressive!

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CartersWhittling

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#9 posted 10-22-2011 06:04 PM

thanks

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Maxedge

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#10 posted 12-09-2011 03:31 PM

Check out www.simplytoolsteel.com I found some good source for O-1 tool steel there and it is a good reference for other grades too.

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CartersWhittling

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#11 posted 12-09-2011 11:53 PM

Alright. Thanks.

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#12 posted 12-10-2011 03:17 AM

I upgraded to the Ron Hock A2 cryo plane irons. A2 has a better heattreat profile and benefits allot from cryogenic cycling.

-- Bill Zerby

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CartersWhittling

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#13 posted 12-10-2011 03:39 AM

I understand A2 tool steel is more durable, but the process of heat treating and hardening is not as easy to do, unlike O1 steel.

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#14 posted 12-11-2011 01:38 AM

Ron Hock welcomes folks to his shop in the seaside community of Fort Bragg, California. I visited him in 2006, and he explained a bit about the features and trade-offs of various steels. O1 can be sharpened to a finer edge. And is also easier to work than A2. The cryogenic process stabilizes and retains carbon molecules in the steel.

Just two months ago I checked out Ron’s book, The Perfect Edge. What an education? We tend to forget that metals (and their use) defined civilizations. Ever heard of the Stone Age, or the Bronze Age. The ability to use metals was the horizon. Should be required reading for woodworkers and machinists.

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CartersWhittling

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#15 posted 12-11-2011 05:24 AM

Interesting, I’ll check out the book sometime.

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