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rance

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10-20-2011 04:19 AM

Topic tags/keywords: musings

Let me count the ways…....

WARNING, this is a long, boring one…

And no, this is not the 10 Step Method either. LOL! :D

  1. A Lurker – I began as a Lurker almost three years ago when a young student of mine told me about this site. He brought some of his wooden rings to the last day of class and I was so fascinated with them. Interestingly enough, I don’t believe that student has been back here in almost two years. Its not for everyone. I began lurking around for a bit off and on, maybe for a year I did this. Lurking sufficed for me for a while, but then I wanted to start tagging things for later retrieval. I also desired to add my own comments to certain posts. That meant I had to sign up and log in.
  2. I Signed Up – So….. I signed up. At first, I used my Watchlist to tag what I wanted to go back to. This worked for a while until I realized that I can’t see out past 30 days worth. I fretted over this a bit and struggled along and started putting links to these in my Palm Pilot. Then, much later, I realized I could use the ‘Favorite’ button. I hesitated from using this button for so long because I didn’t properly understand what it was put there for. I thought it was for some kind of voting on folks’ projects and such. Heck, some folks(including me in the beginning) seemed to have a prime goal of getting the most views, comments, or favoriteds on their projects and such. Don’t get me wrong, It is nice to see high numbers, but I think most members eventually get over that. One of the things I believe that LJ could improve upon is informing members of some of the obscure functionality of the site. There’s more here than the casual user thinks. Really.
  3. Mastering ‘Favorites’ – I eventually just jumped in and started Favoriting anything I thought was cool. Actually, I think it should be a ‘Cool’ button, not a ‘Favorite’ button. Heck, I have over 400 favorites(projects, blogs, and forum topics) now. Sorry Steve, but I don’t think I’ve Favorited a single video. I should go back and tag the best one you ever did though. That’s the Christmas Ornament. It is truely a classic for all ages and skill levels.
  4. Testing through Hard Times – We all had to muddle through the bad times with the mish mash and the stuff that led up to the removal of the Coffee Shop. We even lost some very good members such as DaveR. Things eventually settled down a bit and that forum topic was brought back(but under a different name). During those times, we used LJ to test our longivity.
  5. Others’ Friendships – Somehow between then and now, I saw right before my eyes some of the friendships that had been forming between other Jocks(and Janes). Real friendships. Folks were snail mailing tools, wood, and projects to other members that they thought highly enough of as a token of appreciation, respect, gratitude, or for other unspoken reasons. And some of these folks STILL have not met in person. You ever heard of a Pen-Pal? It’s virtually the same thing. I hate writing, so I never had pen pals growing up. We also lost Chip at somepoint in the journey.
  6. My Friendships – I then began to get emails notifying me that I had been Buddied by someone. To this day, it still baffles me as to why most of them have done this. Sometimes you’ll get an associated PM but most of the time not. [Side Note to Martin: As a suggestion, I think it would be a GREAT addition if you could include in the ’Add to Buddies’ process, the inclusion of a PM to be sent to the person they are ‘Buddying’ letting them know why they just got Buddied. Simple freeform text, not a dropdown list.] Following this Buddying, I started finding myself forming real friend relationships with some members here, and not all are Buddies. Understand, I don’t Buddy back everyone that Buddies me. I’m just different, but that’s ok. It still makes me curious why some folks I have never had contact with are Buddying me. I admit, I have Buddied a couple of members because they make really cool stuff, and I want to be notified when they post new threads. For some, a real relationship has not formed. Following this, I have since received packages from other members. Some wood, some projects(or parts, thereof). I have not forgotten you all, I will be recognizing you publicly later. :) I hope this is not rude.
  7. Lurking a Lurker – And now Today, I commented on a somewhat obscure post and noticed that however odd this Blog was, a few folks still found it helpful and had Favorited it. I peeked to see who, and clicked on a member’s name that had what looked like familiarities in it. It turns out that the familiarities were unfounded, but I went to his home page. This user had only 7 posts in over 700 days, and none in almost 500 days. But yet he had just Favorited this Blog. No projects, blogs, reviews, or forum topics himself, mostly lurking and Favoriting. He had over 400 Favorites. Hey, I see absolutely nothing wrong with that, really. I then began lurking amongst HIS favorites and discovered maybe another new way of using LumberJocks. I might do more lurking of Favorites of my Buddy’s lists. Its funny how other folks can often Favorite projects you also find interesting. You could find some you’ve somehow missed.
  8. Using the Tabs – I find myself sometimes skipping a couple of days at a time from getting on LJ. For this, there’s the maybe more common way of perusing LJ. You can use the Tabs at the top of every page and pick a category and just drive down that one specific road. And for Forum topics, you can narrow that road to be more specific. A similar method might be in using the Search engine, but as it has been pointed out, it is not known to be the best. It sometimes suffices though.
  9. Tried & True – My tried and true method though has been the Pulse page. Mostly the summarized version at the bottom of most pages. I do go to the full page version when I want to see all my Watchlist, but I normally keep it on All Activity.

I hope this has not been too boring. I’m sure there are plenty of other diverse ways of using LJ. I just wanted to document my thoughts on this and thought other folks might have other ways they use LJ. I think LJ is one of the best kept secrets on the internet. It can be used in so many different ways. Its a lot more versatile than most of the other Special Interest forums out there. It won’t replace a good personal website for small commercial purposes, but it has been very helpful to me in the last three years. Thanks for getting the ball rolling Martin.

Rance

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--


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ShaneA

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#1 posted 10-20-2011 04:49 AM

Great post, my use of the site is ever evolving. I lurked for a couple of years. It was the projects that originally drew me in. Then reviews. I do not consider myself a tech type person, so I was always a little hesitant to join. I am glad that I joined, there is a lot to be learned here. I too typically navigate thru the pulse page now. I really have no idea how to use most of the functions, but somehow I get by. I would guess there are more lurkers than members. I could be wrong but it doesnt seem like the site counts lurkers in the “number of views”, so there are really a lot more people looking, reading, and being inspired than it may seem. I think this site is amazing, and I am glad I found it.

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Joe Lyddon

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#2 posted 10-20-2011 06:31 AM

About 4.5 years ago, I also wandered by the seat of my pants… really didn’t get around much… didn’t really turn me on all that much… found other forums… would come back now & then… got around a little better… left… to come back later to mosey around…

Finally, it started looking better & better… found myself staying around more often… still never figured how to really USE it… I would be Bookmarking a lot… discovered the Pulse button, just like you,... then started Watching and Favoriting… then, I noticed the Pulse, New & Watchlist as well as Watchlist only… That made it a lot easier to see what was happening! Liked it better… stuck around longer… etc. etc.

... and here I am… Belong to other forums but spend more time here…

That’s pretty much how it happened for me.

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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David Grimes

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#3 posted 10-20-2011 06:49 AM

1. Got questions answered and advise just for the asking. It was / is great.
2. Even answered a few questions and gave a little advise. That’s good.
3. Projects (looking at others’ and posting my own)
4. Got the plane sickness (and that was fun), but it’s just a low grade fever now. Not terminal.
5. Off-topic has been interesting, amusing, informative, even shocking a time or two. Who has ever met someone at work or elsewhere where you don’t ever get to know them better ? Maybe announce a new grandchild, show off a tractor, ask for lawnmower advise, tell a few jokes, whatever. If the subject goes to something that causes someone to hang their butt out, then okay, they hung it out. If anyone gets passionate or even upset, that’s their reaction and they hopefully can live with it.
6. Some of the buddies are.

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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Don W

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#4 posted 10-20-2011 03:40 PM

wow, I almost ran right over this post. My response would almost mirror David’s so I’ll only post the additions. I got here through the plane sickness. I caught that infliction some where else, but came here to help spread it. I’ve learned a little and hopefully helped on occasion.

I’ve posted plane restores to the point I been expecting requests to stop, but they never came.

I’m in the computer business, so working with “virtual” friends is not new to me. I’ve got virtual friends I’ve known for 15 years and never met in person, and coming to this site has added to that list.

Thanks for the post!

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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gfadvm

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#5 posted 10-21-2011 05:26 AM

Rance, It was long but not boring. I’m barely computer literate (if you stretch the definition of literate!) but I’m on this site daily and try to look at EVERYTHING (I’m afraid I’ll miss something!). I have never figured out the benefits of useing the Pulse button. Enlighten me, please.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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Joe Lyddon

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#6 posted 10-21-2011 06:29 AM

”Pulse”

Heading: new posts & my watchlist . . . new posts . . . my watchlist

”new posts & my watchlist”
Gives you a quick list of All New Posts (wherever they are)... AND Your WatchList.

”new posts”
Gives you a quick list of All New Posts (wherever they are)

”my watchlist”
Gives you a quick list of your WatchList... New Posts are Bold and at the top.

It’s not too complicated… It gives you the action taking place in a quick list… one line per post.

Try it… You may like it… LOL

-- Have Fun! Joe Lyddon - Alta Loma, CA USA - Home: http://www.WoodworkStuff.net ... My Small Gallery: http://www.ncwoodworker.net/pp/showgallery.php?ppuser=1389&cat=500"

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S4S

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#7 posted 10-21-2011 11:20 PM

U R never boring , but you left out SHUFFLE , what about Shuffle ?!!

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DaddyZ

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#8 posted 10-21-2011 11:36 PM

My Addition is always to Silently thank Martin & Co for starting all this Process.

-- Pat - Worker of Wood, Collector of Tools, Father of one

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rance

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#9 posted 10-22-2011 01:54 AM

“Do the Hustl…”, I mean “Do the Shuffle”. :D Now I know how.

One constant is Change. I’m sure my use of LJ will continue to change.

Andy. The Pulse is simply a way to view the ‘most recent’ activity. Of course with so many members now, the most recent 10 posts don’t mean much now. You really have to ‘Go To Pulse Page’ to get a better picture. Once you are there, you can switch(at the top) between ‘My Watchlist’ and ‘All Activity’. Do you ‘Watch’ any posts Andy?

And now I see ’New Posts’. That’s an interesting one. I guess it shows all posts that I have NOT viewed. Fascinating. I guess we can make this #10. :)

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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gfadvm

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#10 posted 10-22-2011 03:08 AM

Rance, I ‘watch’ a lot of posts using the watchlist thingy in ‘My Lumberjocks. Since I look at every post every night I don’t see a use for the ‘pulse’ button (for me). Sounds like a good thing for folks who have less time to prowl LJ. Joe, Thanks for the input. I feel smarter already!

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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rance

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#11 posted 10-23-2011 07:42 AM

Andy, then I’ll be nicer now. :D

-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--

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David Grimes

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#12 posted 10-23-2011 10:16 AM

BTW, the shuffle is much easier with fine sawdust underfoot. I’m just sayin’.

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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S4S

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#13 posted 10-24-2011 06:18 AM

Yes , David . the shuffle is benefited by a somewhat slick surface, but not too slick . It all depends on your age
and nervous system . You might be shuffling slower if you are an older woodworker or retired Vegas showgirl .
Its great exercise , no matter how fast you are dancing . The shuffle button here at LJs loads somewhat slowly ,
but more than compensates for that by it’s time traveling function , where you can post comments on stuff going back to cave drawings and primitive wine bottle holders , and no one will know ,unless they are also off the beaten path and hitting the Shuffle Button on a regular basis . Perhaps rance and myself will discover new insights while using it , who can tell . The Tecktonik gives one a good upper-body workout without a lot of foot work that is involved in the shuffle dance , It’s a kind of Madonna-esque hyped-up Vouge type thingy for a new millinium ummmm age woodworker. Unfortunately , LJs does not have a Tecktonik Button , but if they ever install one , it’s going to be even wilder than the Shuffle….IMO . I think Shuffle vs. Tecktonik was a dead tie . ......Unlike my beloved Texas Tech Red Raiders who show once again that You should never ever ever Ever count them out . Guns UP ! I pointed out to my Son-in-law ( who thinks he is a better handi-capper , and is hughly ‘UP’ for the week ) That a $ 100 bet on that Oklahoma game would have brought a $ 15,000 pay out . To which my daughter replied ” Yeah, honey , you should make bets like that.” Then we all laughed .

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