| Forum topic by TopamaxSurvivor | posted 584 days ago | 1285 views | 0 times favorited | 17 replies | ![]() |
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584 days ago |
Topic tags/keywords: derivatives high stakes gambling fdic capitalism Bank of American and JP Morgan Chase are reported to hold more than $140 Trillion in derivatives. The annual total economic activity of the world is only $60 Trillion; the US is $15 Trillion. The banksters are moving this gambling operation into their commercial divisions to take advantage of FDIC insurance; ie, you and I just got screwed again! ;-(( This will dwarf what AIG’s failure did to the US debt load. -- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence Wake Up America!! Please read; http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/01/26-0 |
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#1 posted 584 days ago |
A Primer: Understanding Derivatives Heidi is the proprietor of a bar in Detroit … To solve this problem, she comes up with a new marketing plan that allows her customers to drink now, but pay later. Heidi keeps track of the drinks consumed on a ledger (thereby granting the customers loans). By providing her customers freedom from immediate payment demands, Heidi gets no resistance when, at regular intervals, A young and dynamic vice-president at the local bank recognizes that these customer debts constitute valuable These “securities” then are bundled and traded on international securities markets. Heidi then demands payment from her alcoholic patrons. But, being unemployed alcoholics— The suppliers of Heidi’s bar had granted her generous payment extensions and had invested their firms’ pension funds in the BOND securities. Fortunately though, the bank, the brokerage houses and their respective executives are saved and Now do you understand? -- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence Wake Up America!! Please read; http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/01/26-0 |
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#2 posted 584 days ago |
we loss aget now you have to bared with your out so they stick it when you gone -- Robert Laddusaw and no I am not smarter then a fifth grader ( and no I canot spell so if it is a problem don't read it )) |
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#3 posted 584 days ago |
One word…...GREED. |
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#4 posted 584 days ago |
We lost our agets ? Damn ! ;=) -- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia |
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#5 posted 584 days ago |
You lost me right after I started thinking about free beer. JK, nice analogy, -- Mel |
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#6 posted 584 days ago |
Apparently one of Heidi’s customers? |
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#7 posted 583 days ago |
I’ve always said they should change their name to Bank of Mexico!! Now I do not know what they should change it to except incompetent and self serving!!!!! -- Folly ever comes cloaked in opportunity! |
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#8 posted 583 days ago |
WE do not have a capitalist economy, it is an oligarchy or plutocracy when we have 4 monopolies controlling the majority of the banking assets. -- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence Wake Up America!! Please read; http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/01/26-0 |
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#9 posted 583 days ago |
Us Australians are in only marginally better shape. An Australian company convinced the Government to pay it a $16 million grant to keep manufacturing in Australian. Within a year, the company had paid most of that to its board as bonuses and shut down all Australian manufacturing. Either our government officials are stupid or corrupt. I will let you guess which. In the end, what can you do about it. NOTHING. -- Living is a constant gamble, life is about working the odds in your favour |
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#10 posted 583 days ago |
140 trillion????? Maybe we should look at your facts or your source———when everything on the planet is worth 55 trillion dollars. C’mon Topa! |
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#11 posted 583 days ago |
I agree with the premise. We do not have capitalism, if we did we would have let the market decide and let the banks fend for themselves. We would also not hava dad laws on the books requireing them to make loans to people who probably could not pay them back. If we would have let the banks fail theire would be a boom for smaller banks or maybe a economic collapse like that of 1871…1888…1892 well you get the idea. But many believe that these economic collapses are the proper redistribution of wealth instead of taxing people out of exsistance. |
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#12 posted 583 days ago |
I don’t know what we are worried about…..I’m sure they have our interests at heart. Besides, I have been reading your beloved first lady is doing her best to spend her way out of economic depression. Money and power do not bode well with people of little intelect. -- No one plans to fail, they just, just fail to plan |
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#13 posted 583 days ago |
YanktonSD Those are only 2 of the institutions holding them. No one knows what the total liability of the derivatives market is. It is many times the net worth of the entire world and far beyond the GWP for decades!! ;-(( That has been the concern of responsible financial people ever since they were invented. Greenspan maintained responsible people ran the institutions and markets so regulation and oversight were not necessary. We all know better than that, don’t we? France now has a law against investing in American garbage put together by Wall Street. The criminals at Goldman Sachs apparently screwed them too badly betting against the AAA rated securities they sold them ;-) -- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence Wake Up America!! Please read; http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/01/26-0 |
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#14 posted 583 days ago |
FDIC only insures the first $250-Gees per depositor -- When the moderator chooses sides, his site sucks. |
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#15 posted 583 days ago |
my understanding of the debaclle is fairly similar, however, which a couple big exceptions #1 being they(banks) had been regulated to only being able to borrow 60% (as i recall) over what they actually had, then the “dodd-frank bill” came into play where that regulation was let to expire, to give homes to people that plainly didnt make enough to cover their loans, especially on any of the squirrelly stuff like ARMS or balloon type morgtages especially. An example would be : u want to buy a ferrarri for $190,000, who doesnt?..lol the bank approves you based on your income of $40,000 or $3333/month figuring you can pay it back in 5 years because the 1st year will be interest free so $38,000 for that year is feasable, with the mere payment of $3167/month who really needs to eat anyways?..lol so yay!, its affordable! -- if you dont have it, build it, especially when its a stupid idea |
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