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Forum topic by saddletramp posted 10-18-2011 08:03 PM 3747 views 0 times favorited 37 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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saddletramp

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10-18-2011 08:03 PM

Topic tags/keywords: tormek question clone

I have come to the conclusion that I need a slow speed, wet sharpening system. Everyone that I have talked to that has a tormek has praised them as the ultimate sharpener but they have universally stated that they believe that they are over priced. If they are truely overpriced, there should be room in the market place for a more reasonably priced clone of the same high quality. My question is, is there a clone that meets these criteria? Does anyone have experience with a tormek clone that they believe to be as good as a tormek?

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interpim

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#1 posted 10-18-2011 08:13 PM

I’ve heard the grizzly slow speed grinder performs quite well

http://www.grizzly.com/products/Slow-Speed-Grinder/G1036

-- San Diego, CA

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#2 posted 10-18-2011 08:23 PM

I have the sheppach which is similar to Grizzlys 8” wet-slow grinder and it works great.

I do not believe the Tormeks are overpriced considering what they are build for and that is continuous use and as such they can be used for sharpening service centers and run constantly – for that purpose they are worth every penny. the clones are not built for such a heavy load and constant use and therefor cost less and are suitable for the occasional user.

as a hobbyist I don’t believe you’d see much difference between the tormek and a clone in your own shop for personal use.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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SCOTSMAN

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#3 posted 10-18-2011 08:29 PM

There are a few direct copies of Tormek they are practically identical and I believe tormek are way overpriced get the JET or the Sheppach or whatever is favorite in your neck of the woods Even their accessories are much cheaper and identical.In other words Tormek are too greedy and have had it their way too long now they have serious competition .I wouldn’t hesitate .I gave all my Tormek to my old pal I found the set up too slow and sore on my back standing so long .The secret is when the tools is shaped and sharp don’t let it go too long till you sharpen it again so frequent sharpening with just a quick touch and then your ok. Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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Bluepine38

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#4 posted 10-18-2011 09:23 PM

I have a Delta model 23-700 grinder that I bought a a garage sale for $60.00 that is a twin to the Grizzly
grinder. The large stone is very soft and wears easily if used wet, but it turns so slow that I have had no
problems using it dry. The stone is so soft that there is a problem with keeping it trued straight and round
though.

-- As ever, Gus-the 75 yr young apprentice carpenter

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Bill White

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#5 posted 10-18-2011 09:28 PM

I use the Makita horizontal wheel wet sharpener. It is used for planer blades, plane blades, knives, and other stuff. Look at it. I find it a great value, and super low tech. Might be just what ya want.
Bill

-- bill@magraphics.us

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Elizabeth

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#6 posted 10-18-2011 09:33 PM

I have the Grizzly grinder and have had a lot of difficulty with it, especially with getting the correct angles on gouges. A lot of that is undoubtably due to my inexperience but I do wish I had plumped for the Tormak. I am likely to sell mine at some point and try to get a Tormak or at least something that can use the Tormak jigs..

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PurpLev

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#7 posted 10-18-2011 09:37 PM

Elizabeth, which grinder do you have? the grizzly 10” wet grinder accepts all the tormek accessories (except for the planer blade jig)

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Elizabeth

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#8 posted 10-18-2011 09:42 PM

Oh, does it? I’ll have to look into that. I do know that it doesn’t take the buffing wheel attachment for the inside edges of gouges – at least, that’s what I’ve heard.

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#9 posted 10-18-2011 10:30 PM

Is there a preferred grit on these slow speed grinders? 200 or 320?

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#10 posted 10-19-2011 01:55 AM

I have the Grizzly unit with a smaller grinding wheel attachment on the side. I am actually looking to sell it as I just don’t use it. I am a waterstone sharpener and I guess I always will be. If you are interested in it, we can work something out. I listed it on here awhile ago, it is on this page:

http://lumberjocks.com/topics/18065

-- Mike

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#11 posted 10-19-2011 02:24 AM

I have the TORMEK … it IS indeed overpriced. I have used a friend’s JET … for all practical purposes, it will do everything the TORMEK will do for a LOT less $$$$$ ... AND … all of the jigs & fixtures interchange. Now, the TORMEK and it’s jigs are probably slightly better quality, but for the money, you can’t beat the JET.

-- - dabbling in sarcasm is foolish … if you’re not proficient at it, you end up looking stupid … ... ...

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mafe

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#12 posted 10-19-2011 02:55 AM

I have a Scheppac TIGER200S watersharpener and are on my second stone now (I used it a lot), so even it was a cheap machine it has run perfect for some years now.
It fits the Tormek gear but also have its own.
You can see it here:
http://lumberjocks.com/mafe/blog/17509
It is the best investment I have made for the shop.
Best thoughts,
Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.

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#13 posted 10-19-2011 03:38 AM

I have the smaller grizzly wet grinder All the jig are interchangeable but the accuracy is not near as well as the tromek bar i have on the bench grinder. there is quite a bit i don’t like about it like the body is all plastic. the rubber wheel that drives the grinding stone and leather strop slips when pressure is applied so light pressure has to be used. the grinding stone is soft and wares away fast. the place where the bar attaches to the side sticks out a little bit and the grinding wheel doesn’t take long to get to small to use a tool setting jig. The stone doesn’t grade vary well so its hard to get a really smooth grind on the tools and it would take forever to hone them with the strop to get them even close to what a tormek will get them.

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exelectrician

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#14 posted 10-19-2011 06:02 AM

Why use a power tool to grind away all that good steel? God gave us muscles to work with. It is possible to get perfect results with a piece of melamine MDF, and high quality sand paper spray glued, to the surface. A simple $15 honing guide, and in a short space of time you have perfection.

-- Love thy neighbour as thyself

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maljr1980

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#15 posted 10-19-2011 06:12 AM

i use japanese water stones to sharpen all of my tools and they work great.

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