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Forum topic by Joseph Kush posted 10-18-2011 03:47 PM 2192 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Joseph Kush

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10-18-2011 03:47 PM

Topic tags/keywords: planer laguna casadei review 25 tool help school question

Hello,

HELP I need some input! The school district that I work for received a bid for a Casadei PS 630 25” planer with a tersa cutter block for about $17,500 and a Laguna 25” planer with ShearTec II Cutterhead w/ for about $11,000. At this point, the stumbling block is the price between the two models.

I need a machine that is going to run strong for at least 30 years with daily high school student use.

I’m trying to give the school board some unbiased input for which model to select. Although I have my own personal opinions, I’m looking out to the LumberJocks community for help. I have searched the Internet for reviews of both machines with no matches.

Below are the links where you can find infomation on each planer. Both are 15HP 3 phase.

Laguna (look at page 11 on the catalog) http://www.lagunatools.com/catalog
Casadei http://www.hermance.com/staticpages/delmac/Casadei-PS-630-Planer.asp

Thank you for your time and help!


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Mark Shymanski

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#1 posted 10-21-2011 10:06 PM

Just to add to the mix, why not explore General tools

http://www.general.ca/site_general/g_produits/sander/15-245.html

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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cabmaker

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#2 posted 10-21-2011 10:36 PM

Couldnt recomend either. Im not sure the Laguna is proven in that venue and the other one I cant spell. Whats wrong with a powermatic 225 ? It will be in that price range and will out live your thirty year criteria. It is howver a 24 inch and your looking at 25 s. If a twenty four would not work for you Im not sure a 25 would either. How did you come to zero in on the two you took bids on ?

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Joseph Kush

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#3 posted 10-24-2011 05:20 PM

When I had requested quotes, I knew that the Casadei is what our local VoTech uses and it is a workhorse and can withstand the typical highschool use and abuse. SCM Casadei is generally used in industry therefore it is really heavy duty, reliable, safe, and meets current decibel regulations.

The Laguna is just another Asian/Chinese clone just like a Powermatic, Jet, General, Oliver, Grizzly etc. I want something that is made in the USA. The Casadei is an Italian company, but it is made in Greensboro NC.

The safety, build quality, reliability, price, and country of manufacture were important to me in that order.

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cabmaker

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#4 posted 10-24-2011 10:37 PM

In that event just go straight to it. Northfield, but better up your budget. Youll never need another one.

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Loren

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#5 posted 10-24-2011 11:28 PM

I sincerely doubt student use, even daily student use, comes even
close to the abuse real industrial machines are built to withstand.

Look at the woods you’ll be using – I’ll bet they will be mostly cheap
and soft.

Any machine will break if not maintained. Many machines will hold
up well if they are. Realistically, I’d expect your school could
depreciate the purchase in a lot less than 30 years, sell the machine
for cash, and re-invest in a newer machine.

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RaymondAbel

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#6 posted 11-05-2011 04:50 PM

if it may help, I have the 20” planer with ShearTec II Cutterhead & I am 100%

-- "Ceci est un hobby, c'est pas supposé "faire de sens".

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John Ormsby

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#7 posted 11-05-2011 05:21 PM

I have a jointer/planer combo with the Tersa blade system and love it. Tersa knives are readily available and easy to change.
I do not like Laguna because of their bad reputation for customer support.

-- Oldworld, Fair Oaks, Ca

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backroad

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#8 posted 11-06-2011 05:14 AM

The Tersa blade system is a fantastic idea. VERY easy and simple to change. The only problem I see is the Casadei planer itself. The bearings do not last very long. I work in a millwork shop, and we changed the bearings every few months, until we got our Felder planer. For the first few months that planer worked great, but we began having issues with table calibration, electronics, and eventually, bearings and, ultimately, the motor itself. Felder sent us a new planer, which, for the first year, worked without any problems, then bearings would go every 3-4 months. We now have a Martin. FABULOUS machine!!! Very Heavy, but it is built to last! Their jointer is a real pleasure to use as well. Don’t waste your money. buy something good the first time!

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mcase

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#9 posted 11-08-2011 07:08 AM

Check out Laguna’s horrible reputation for customer service and it may help you decide.

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RaymondAbel

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#10 posted 11-08-2011 02:41 PM

@ mcase
it seem that Laguna had this bad réputation. I cvan say that it is non longeur the case.
I have a 20” ShearTec II Cutterhead, a cyclone 3hp, a bandsaw 16” (serie 3000) & I am waiting for a 8” ShearTec II Cutterhead paralollogram.

So I had to contact my dealer first (Elite.ca) I am 100% with what Elite did.
For some other issue , I had to deal directly with Laguna, As you can see, English is not my mother language. One again, I am 100% satisfy. The only thing is when pieces are send from Californie to Québec (Canada) that some time but each time Elite.ca find a way to send me a spare part so I was down only one or 2 days (Elite is 350km away from me)

I think Laguna customer services is from very discussion.
AFAIAK, I am 100% satisfy by the quality of their product & 100% with their customer services.

My 2 cents
Ray

-- "Ceci est un hobby, c'est pas supposé "faire de sens".

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