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10-18-2011 06:49 AM

Topic tags/keywords: gum tree 45 feet cut sell question

I am crying while I am typing this. I need to get rid of the pair of sweet gum trees in my yard although they are one of the original reasons why I bought the house. From day one, everyone is telling me to get rid of the pair of tree. However, I did not listen at all. I put off the topic all these years.

If you recall, before the last storm, there was also a “Tornado”, both event demonstrated some very possible severe damages to the house as the pair is only around 10 feet from the house. We got huge trunks (which are only some branches!) falling in the yard and on the storage shed (luckily not on my roof or my neighbor’s roof!). I still got pictures of the disaster.

While the trees provide good shade for my family and my house for 360 days, it will only takes them a few hours or simply one drop to destroy my house. My family feel being threatened on any windy day, esp. after the recent storm and the last “Tonado”. If the wind blows at night, I just keep praying as I cannot fall asleep by listening the roaring orchestra of the wind, leaves and branches.

It has taken half a century for the trees to grow to this height, if I have to cut it, I hope they can be useful. Anyone wants my trees? or help me to sell them?


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#1 posted 10-18-2011 08:40 PM

Yes, every blast took a few limbs which one or two had to remove by at least 2 men. I still have one limbs that cannot be moved by even 3 men sitting in my yard. Again, it’s lucky that it fell on the yard, not my house or my neighbor’s house.

As the house is fine, I did not claim insurance for the storage shed which is still pending on replacing… I don’t dare to call for insurance company to check out the situation, they all will propably reject my application from now on.

What do you mean by “The one that DOESN’T want the job is the one you should hire for trimming”?

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#2 posted 10-18-2011 10:31 PM

Having been in the tree trimming business for a while I think I can answer for Anji. The one that doesn’t want the job is the one that cares about the trees. The other guy wants the money and will be happy to do untold damage to the trees to get it.

Can you post a picture or two of you’re situation? There are some mitigation factors that can be done, but it would help to have a visual to reference. Try to show the tree’s relation to the house in the pics.

If I lived on you’re side of the country I’d come get that branch from you. Oh well ;)

-- I only WISH I could do this for a living. Problem is I don't want to sell anything I make!

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#3 posted 10-19-2011 01:11 AM

I am new to the site. Hopefully I’ll do it correctly to post the pictures which were took after the tornado. One of them you should see how close the pair of trees to the house. The limb that buried next to the pair is the limb which is still sitting on my yard. I’ll take some picture as of now if you interest to see. I forgot to mention, besides the storage shed, the fence door of the yard and my father’s garden w were also destoryed.

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#4 posted 10-19-2011 02:21 AM

I think I did it wrong earlier, here are the pictures

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#5 posted 10-19-2011 02:32 AM

These are to show how close and tall the trees are…..:P

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#6 posted 10-24-2011 06:12 PM

Given the proximity to your house, I would definitely be looking up an insured company or individual to take down the trees. Where in NY are you? I’m in Rochester and if you’re relatively close, I’d love to get some of the lumber this tree would produce.

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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#7 posted 10-24-2011 07:30 PM

Well, it’s a tough call. If you get the limbs trimmed up and the trees are healthy I doubt you need to worry about the entire tree(s) coming down. Also, you’re going to hate your AC bill next summer once those are gone.

On the other hand, if you’re dead set on taking them out, there is enough good lumber there you can probably get someone to pay YOU to take them out. You’ll need to know how many board feet the yield will be. To calculate that measure the circumference of the of the tree as high as you can reach. Then (Cir/Pi)/2 = radius. Pi*(radius ^2) = area. (Area * (height of usable trunk)) = approximate volume. This will be a measure of cubic feet (ft^3). Since a board foot is 1 foot X 1 foot X 1 inch, one cubic foot is 12 board feet. So approximate yield is approximate volume X 12. You’ll want to divide that final number by 2 to account for waist and shrinkage during drying.

So for a 45’ tree with circumference of 50’’ (8’’ radius) your yield would be Pi*(.66’^2) X 45’ X (12/2) =~ 370 board feet. If you charge $0.50 per BF that gets you about $185 for the tree. This would be the ‘standing lumber’ price. If you know how much the milled/dried wood sells for in your area you can dived that price by 7 or 8 to get a good/fair standing lumber price. And that price is what THEY PAY YOU to take the tree down.

And if they are taking the lumber, make them take the rest too (especially if you only charge $0.50/BF).

Good luck, and let us know how it goes!

-- I only WISH I could do this for a living. Problem is I don't want to sell anything I make!

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#8 posted 10-24-2011 07:38 PM

”Since a board foot is 1 foot X 1 inch X 1 inch”
Actually, wouldn’t that be 1ft x 1ft x 1in?

-- Dan, Rochester, NY

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#9 posted 10-24-2011 08:16 PM

Dough! You’re right Dan. I checked the rest over and it look OK. Must have got to typing to fast :)

-- I only WISH I could do this for a living. Problem is I don't want to sell anything I make!

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#10 posted 10-24-2011 11:40 PM

With the potential liability for damages done if a mistake is made in taking down the trees that large and close to the house, anyone would be foolish to take pay her for them and remove them… Standing prices don’t apply to this type of situation, especially since it’s only two trees. Most people who pay for timber stumpage are looking for many acres of trees. She will do well to pay a qualified aborist or tree service to take the trees down. If she wanted she could probably then get a mobile mill in to produce lumber which might be of value. Unfortunately sweet gum lumber tends to degrade a lot while drying and frequently winds up looking like a pretzel… Although it is beautiful wood if you can get it to behave…

Good Luck!

Be Careful!

Herb

-- Herb, Florida - Here's why I close most messages with "Be Careful!" http://lumberjocks.com/HerbC/blog/17090

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