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Forum topic by 3007 posted 10-16-2011 04:49 AM 2529 views 0 times favorited 6 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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3007

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10-16-2011 04:49 AM

Hello,
I’m in the market for my first hand plane and while I’d love an ultra-premium one or a nice vintage one, I don’t have the money or the patience to go those routes right now. What do you all think of the mid-ranged planes like the anant kamal or uk stanley like the ones Highland carries(the $75 to $85 range)? I understand some tuning will be needed but is it a manageable amount or are they just a waste of money?

Thanks


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Arminius

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#1 posted 10-16-2011 05:48 AM

From what I have seen, there is less tuning involved in getting a vintage Stanley in good working order than either of those. Both will probably require fettling, both will need some work to ensure the frogs are properly seated, but the older Stanley frogs are just fundamentally better.

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zosomagick

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#2 posted 10-16-2011 07:02 AM

Hi 3007.

I can’t speak for the newer Stanley planes, but my first plane was a #5 Anant Kamal plane. That was nearly 3 years ago. I have since purchased several other brands including the vintage Stanley, Stanley bedrocks, Lie-Nielsen and Woodrivers. After all this time, I can assure you that tuning a plane is an art in itself and will require many precious hours of valuable shop time. I think if I knew then, what I know now, and like you were on a limited budget I would look really hard at the Woodriver planes from Woodcraft. If you can afford the $75-$85 dollars the Anant Kamal costs you are getting really close to the price of the Woodriver planes. The amount of tuning required on the Woodriver is much less than a Kamal or any vintage Stanley and you get a superior frog seating and adjusting mechanism. The blade and chipbreaker are also vastly superior. The Anant blade was not very good. If you replaced it with an aftermarket blade you would be adding to the overall cost of the Kamal that is included with the Woodriver. The Woodriver is the newest plane in my arsenal so I cannot attest to the blade durability vs. the Lie-Nielsen but it is already way better than the Kamal.

At least at my local Woodcraft, they regularly have 20% off one item sales. Save a few more dollars and wait for the Woodcraft sale. You will save loads of time trying to get a lesser plane up to snuff and likely not pay any more money overall. I think I saw a sale flier today from Woodcraft that gives you a free month of Cosman’s internet instruction if you purchase a Woodriver. That may interest you too. Not sure you could use that with a 20% off deal though.

Finally, I need to mention that I think the Lie-Nielsen’s are the best planes out there, hands down. I couldn’t justify the expense when I first started woodworking, but now that I know I’m serious about the craft, I think they are worth every penny. That said, if a Woodriver had been my first plane, it would still have a place in my shop. The Kamal is a paperweight.

Hope this helps!

Tim

P.S. I don’t have any affiliation with any of the above mentioned tool makers or sellers, apart from having purchased and used their products.

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maljr1980

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#3 posted 10-16-2011 07:15 AM

i have a woodriver side rabbat plane, new model stanley sweetheart no. 92, no. 60 1/2, and no. 4. all of them were pretty much ready to go out of the box. i found good prices on the stanleys on amazon. i picked up the no.4 as a return/used from amazons warehouse deals for $92, it retails between 145-180 depending where you look, maybe even higher. the only complaint i have is that my 60 1/2 had a very sloppy job done on the jappaning, but these tools are used at work and will eventually end up scratched and beat up. i didnt fettle the 60 1/2 before use, didnt hone the iron or flatten the back or sole, and it cut paper thin fluffy shavings effortlessly out of the box. i dont know how the uk stanleys are or the annants, but if u watch amazon for used/returned planes to come around you can pick them up for just a little more.

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#4 posted 10-16-2011 01:22 PM

I think you’re probably going to be in for a wrestling match trying to keep the Anant plane (or any inexpensive modern import) tuned up. There are a ton of good vintage planes in the classified sections of woodworking forums like this one, and even more on Ebay. I’d widen my search to include older Stanley Bailey, Stanley Bedrock, the better Millers Falls, older Record, Winchester, Sargent VBM, Union, or Keen Kutter. I’d bet you’ll turn up over 100 good candidates at an affordable price.

What specific size(s) are you looking for?

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Don W

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#5 posted 10-16-2011 02:32 PM

I’ve been putting some on ebay to free up shop space. They are tuned and ready to go. I have several more to go, so let me know what your looking for if interested, I’d rather give an LJ a break than put it on ebay.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.net

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3007

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#6 posted 10-16-2011 05:07 PM

Thanks, all. Lots of helpful info. Since it’ll be my first plane and I really need it to square up the ends of some shelves for a bookshelf, I figured I’d go with a 5, or something a little smaller if I came across a good used one.

Unfortunately the closest woodcraft is an hour away, so I’d prefer to order one.

I was bidding on some on eBay but i kept losing at the last minute. That’s why I was hoping to just order one.

Don W, I’m definitely interested if you have some available. I’m too new here to pm quite yet, but if you can pm me your email Ill be in touch.

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