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Forum topic by VillageBoy posted 10-11-2011 06:40 AM 1457 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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VillageBoy

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10-11-2011 06:40 AM

Greetings all,

I am rookie woodworker w/experience in residential/commercial remodeling. Found a good connection on rough exotic lumber and decided to get my workshop together so I can build furniture with some wicked looking wood.

Got a bunch of wide boards of Gabon Ebony with dimensions: 3-4” x 12-19” x 73”

Boards fairly square but not level because they were milled with chainsaws. I started planing the boards to remove the saw skips and partially level the faces out (creating piles of expensive mulch). It’s incredible seeing the difference a couple passes with the hand plane makes.

I was considering getting a big 5hp planer but now I’m thinking about getting a 19” bandsaw first. My thinking is that with the bandsaw I could re-saw the boards on two sides and take a fairly level board from the center and send it thru the thickness planer, and on to the drum sander.

Could really use some words of wisdom from some more experience woodworkers. Any advice on re-sawing wide plank Gabon Ebony and other exotics on Bandsaw? I’m looking to get something with 5HP….?


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HawkDriver

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#1 posted 10-11-2011 08:06 AM

Gabon that big must have cost a fortune! Mind posting some pics of it so I can be completely jealous? Sounds to me like you need both the bandsaw and the planer. Resaw to thickness then plane flat.

-- Patrick, Helicopters don't fly. They beat the air into submission.

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ghazard

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#2 posted 10-11-2011 05:37 PM

Holy Gabon Ebony batman! Don’t think I’ve ever seen Gabon of such big dimensions. You are sitting on a gold mine there, brother! (using your small dimensions, that is 18.25 bdft at my local price for Gabon of $90/bdft = $1642.50 per board!)

I’d love to see some pics of that! Must be awesome just to look at! :)

Take a look at the GaryK method of planing big boards. This could work. If it’s me, I would use as few processes as possible to preserve as much of the board as possible.

Have fun and can’t wait to see pics.

Greg

-- "Hey, you dang woodchucks! Quit chuckin' my wood!"

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VillageBoy

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#3 posted 10-15-2011 05:02 PM

Thanks for the advice I am currently researching Agazzani, Jet, Grizzly & powermatic and different brands of CT and Carbide Embedded blades.

cr1- I have no problem to let go of a few boards. Just let me know what you have in mind. If you want more, this guy swears he got tons (literally). I didn’t believe his pricing until he actually brought us the wood and we were more than happy. Nobody can beat his price when considering dimensions. So I don’t think it would be a problem to hook you up.

Please check out my blog. I just put up some photos.

I will be adding more this weekend as I employ the GaryK method to planer sled/bridge.

—- VillageBoy

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VillageBoy

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#4 posted 10-16-2011 01:35 AM

Can you use a cooling block set up with the ball bearing blade guides on a bandsaw, or does it have to be one or the other?

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VillageBoy

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#5 posted 10-16-2011 05:52 PM

The bs’ I’m looking at have 19” resaw capacity. I was thinking that when I am resawing boards closer to 10” or 12”, cooling blocks could help keep the blade tension and decrease the amount of heat that will cause the blade to expand and cause blade wander.

I was thinking that maybe the cooling blocks in combo w/the hardcore ball bearing guides could help insure a straight cut all the way through the board.

What do you guys think? Anybody have any knowledge about this method?

—- VillageBoy

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VillageBoy

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#6 posted 10-18-2011 02:53 AM

cr1-

Do you know where I can buy an Agazzani BS in the US?

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Sawkerf

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#7 posted 10-18-2011 03:17 AM

Resawing is more about the blade than the cooling blocks or bearings. You’ll need a for-real resaw blade. I would go with a 3/4” (min), 3 tpi.

-- Adversity doesn't build character...................it reveals it.

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VillageBoy

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#8 posted 10-18-2011 04:23 AM

Thanks for the advice. Do you recommend any speficf brand I should look at?

I have been looking into the Laguna resaw king CT blades, lenox, Timberwolf CT, and others.

Does anyone know about the quality of Laguna bandsaws?

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Sawkerf

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#9 posted 10-20-2011 12:01 AM

I’ve heard that the Timberwolf is really good, but ebony might dull it fairly quickly. Whatever blade you use, get the widest one that will work on whatever bandsaw you buy.

Another possible solution would be to have the wood resawn by a shop with a good resaw setup, then do the planing and sanding yourself.

-- Adversity doesn't build character...................it reveals it.

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#10 posted 10-20-2011 12:37 AM

Agazzani is one beautiful saw. I looked at them and had a quote but they were just too much with shipping. I am always on the lookout for a used one – but they are as scarce as hen’s teeth…if you see one GRAB it!

Laguna used to be a good saw – but until they get their customer support in order they are the ones to avoid…too many nightmares there.

I have the Grizzly extreme series and it has not let me down…great saw…great price…excellent service.

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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VillageBoy

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#11 posted 10-20-2011 04:08 PM

Thanks guys. You have helped me narrow the field and get closer to a decision. For the past few days I have been considering:

Powermatic 18” 5 HP (Price is scary)
Agazzani 800 Rapidi (cant find a vendor)
Laguna LT 18 (Italian) 4.5 or 4.8 HP (expensive, by review, worst customer and tech support of all bs’ I read about)
Grizzly 19” 5 HP (called and tech support says out of stock until December… called again and cust servc said they can get me one in a week.

cr1-
Do you know where I can buy an Agazzani BS in the US?
Jesse at Eagle Tools.
Didn’t you get my PM?

I am a bit slow some times….. I thought that PM’s only come to your email. I just realized that I can see them on my home page this morning. I will get that info and respond.

Eagle- I will be reaching out to eagle tools today. Need to make my choice by the weekend.

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VillageBoy

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#12 posted 01-01-2012 06:02 AM

Thanks for the advice fella’s. Went on ahead with the old Grizzly Bear and matched him up with a samurai style Lenonx (LENOX ARMOR CT BLACK).

Yeah I know it’s a bimetal blade and “metal cutting bandsaw blades are not good for cutting wood”... so I am told.

I deal with hardcore ball busting hardwoods that make most woodmizer bandsaw mills throw up and call it quits. I went to a mill and ate a brand new box of woodmizer frozen hardwood cutting blades in lees then 4 hours. Cut less than 15 boards.

Lenox CT Armor Black…....... All I can say is wow.

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VillageBoy

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#13 posted 01-01-2012 10:13 AM

HAPPY NEW YEARS TO ALL!!!!!!

“MAY THE UNIVERSE CONSPIRE IN YOUR FAVOR”

BACK TO BUSINESS:

Combination of resaw and jointer is just what I need to level out some of these hard boards. Board here resawn on Grizzly BS, and cleaned up on the face jointer.

My straight knife planer gave me alot of tear out on my curly boards. The spiral head jointer gives little to none… if you feed the stock slow, smooth, straight and watch your downward pressure on the board as you feed it.

Even then, my boards with high figure and high curl had 50/50 results. But i’m a novice so it could be an operator thing. Time will tell…....

Here is a before and after result from jointing a 3” x 12” x 73” board of Black & White Gabon Ebony on my 12” Grizzly Spiral Head Jointer.

(Board turned around)

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