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595 days ago
Was Ron Paul right that the Killing of Anwar Al Awlaki was murder and therefore an impeachable offense?
Yes and no.
It depends on something that the rest of us may not know – but which we should know. There is no states secrets implicated.
If it is murder then, absolutely it is impeachable. Because Murder is a crime.
The Constitution is not optional for presidents. Start from there.
The Fourteenth Amendment demands the full panoply of due process rights for all persons who are citizens or arrested inside the territory or boundaries of the USA prior to any deprivation of their rights. Deprivation Life (inter alia) requires a trial and conviction and all the appellate process that is due.
Al Awlaki was never charged, never arrested, never given any of his due process rights.
But there remains another problem:
It is not enough to insist that a person is an Enemy Combatant and then proceed to a full on deprivation of civil rights by way of death (or any other civil right). The phrase needs a meaning and the things done under its banner are subject to Constitutional scrutiny.
Ya can’t just come up with a fancy phrase and claim the Constitution is satisfied or trumped. This is what the president has done. I say it is murder.
I defy any one to come up with a definition of “Enemy Combatant” that has been worked out by the courts and finally SCOTUS that satisfies constitutional scrutiny for the purposes depriving an American citizen of his civil rights without a trial, without a hearing, without any due process at all.
There isn’t one.
So (according to the president) he gets to kill any one he pleases and he gets to do it in secret. He said this in his answer to the Complaint that Al Awlaki’s father brought against him in federal court.
What the president has on his side of the argument is a weak claim that Al Awlaki was engaged in hostilities against the USA. I think it is a weak, weak position because, to the best of my knowledge, the man never engaged in operational planning of any attacks, never held a weapon, and was only inspirational delivering messages that were generally hostile.
If there were a basis for the proposition that it is an act of war to be inspirationally hostile to the USA then the Dixie Chicks and Rosie O’Donnel should also be enemy combatants
So I say that Obama Hussein Barack is a murderer.
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