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10-05-2011 12:25 AM

Dropped the guard to my beard trimmer into the toilet and it appears to have mad eit past the bend in the trap. I bent up a clothes hanger and fished around for a bit to no avail. My next move is to unbolt the toilet and go reverse fishing. Im gonna need a new wax right correct? Anyone else got any slick ideas out there?

That’ll teach me to leave my man grooming accessories laying around.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty


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#1 posted 10-05-2011 12:26 AM

*chuckle

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#2 posted 10-05-2011 12:28 AM

Hmmm, was this a devious way to teach you a lesson for leaving the lid up?

-- Einstein: "The intuitive mind is a sacred gift, and the rational mind is a faithful servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten the gift." I'm Poopiekat!!

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#3 posted 10-05-2011 12:29 AM

You can try a shop vac but it could be tough. If you remove the toilet and reinstall, you should replace the ring.

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#4 posted 10-05-2011 12:35 AM

Do you have a basement or is your house on a slab? If it’s a basement you may be able to save pulling the toilet. Typically the toilet is seated over an elbow with a short run to the stack. Before pulling the toilet I would try opening the cleanout at the bottom of the vertical stack and see if it landed there. Unless there’s a fairly long horizontal run from the toilet to the stack, the clipper head will probably wash right through.

Good luck!

-- Tim from MA -- "Well done is better than well said." - Benjamin Franlin

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#5 posted 10-05-2011 12:44 AM

Tim, the toilet is on the second floor and the clean out is in the basement 2 floors down. The toilet is flushing but not very well at this point. I should have been a bit more descript but my thought is that its stuck at the bottom end of the trap for the toilet.

Also im not real interested in pressing that guard back against my face. It had a great 10 year run but i just hate to see the old fella go out like this.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#6 posted 10-05-2011 12:56 AM

CR1 Ill have to borrow the snake from work tomorrow ill give it a shot … i was planning in trimming the ole flavor saver up but its gonna have to wait until i buy another one.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#7 posted 10-05-2011 01:14 AM

The toilet is the trap. There is no second trap in a toilet. I found this diagram on the web at http://www.toilet-repairs.com that shows how it all connects together. If the toilet isn’t flushing well it could be jammed in the top bend in the toilet. Try shutting off the water supply and flushing the toilet to drain it and use a mirror to look up inside and see if it’s jammed in hte bend.

-- Tim from MA -- "Well done is better than well said." - Benjamin Franlin

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#8 posted 10-05-2011 01:16 AM

Lordy I hate plumbing. Yes, if you pull the toilet, you should replace the wax ring. DON’T try to snake through the toilet or you’ll more than likely need to end up buying a new toilet and a new beard trimmer guard.

My beard trimmer guard is really small, maybe 3/4” across and could not imagine it causing a slow-down in water flow. Sounds like it may have gotten hung up on something that was already in the pipe. Most toilets are connected to a 4” pipe. That may or may not reduce down, guess, it depends on local codes.

You might want to try some liquid drain cleaner to see if it dissolves/dislodges whatever the guard might be caught on. Yea, I know, most drain cleaners say not to put in toilet. And that is correct, you shouldn’t. But after I pull the toilet and before I start snaking, I dump some cleaner down, wait the appropriate amount of time, then follow that with a couple of buckets of water. Usually, it does the job and I don’t have to mess with the snake.

Of course, YMMV.

Bill W

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#9 posted 10-05-2011 01:21 AM

I would try going at it with a closet auger. You might either get it out, force it all the way through, or break it up into smaller pieces.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#10 posted 10-05-2011 01:24 AM

Tim thanks for the diagram … i did mean that top bend, i got a coat hanger pretty deep but not around the bend. . Id venture to guess that its about 1 1/2” around. Thanks for all the help everyone.. except stretch .. he keeps laughing ;)

Looks like im yankin that puppy out tomorrow night.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#11 posted 10-05-2011 01:32 AM

Pulling a toilet is pretty easy (I’ve done dozens), but I suspect that your trimmer guard won’t be in there. That drawing (above) is correct and it’s almost certain that the guard is somewhere in the sewer line. Depending on how many turns yours makes, and how often you’ve flushed that toilet, it might be in the street sewer line (or septic tank) by now.

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#12 posted 10-05-2011 01:46 AM

I wish that was the case sawkerf but ive got reservations .. the toilet isnt flowing very well, kinda gurgling and generally not working well. Its a kohler toilet and has a pretty steep bend, it takes 2 turns. So ive imagining it either jammed up in the toilet or in the waste line. The waste line being 4” would have swallowed it and sent it septic diving if it got there is my guess.

Ive done a couple of toilets so im not terrified of it but obviously i dont wanna do any more work than i really need to. Im gonne give a snake a shot tomorrow night after work and if that doesnt work im gonna dethrone the throne.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#13 posted 10-05-2011 02:17 AM

chrisstef,
Well if all the above methods fail, you can guarantee your beard trimmer guard will end up in the septic tank. It would be fairly easy to retrieve it from the septic tank but personally I’d just replace the guard.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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#14 posted 10-05-2011 02:19 AM

Thanks Rex .. no way im goin swimmin with the lumpfish. I think its time for a replacement.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#15 posted 10-05-2011 02:21 AM

Smart idea chriss, your guard may not be a floater.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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