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Blackie_

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1067 days ago

I see a listing in my local craigs list for a 14” ridgid bandsaw listing at $300 I offered him $250 he counter offered $280.00 which is still available 9/28/11 stated used only once or other choice would be to purchase the harbor fright 14” brand new for $297.00 which includes sale price of 349 added 20% coupon tacking on tax.

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Randy

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doyoulikegumwood

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#1 posted 1067 days ago

All i can say is hmmmmmmm!

while i have no experience with ether machine, looking at the specs alone I’m actually leaning toward the harbor fright modle simply because it is variable speed.

My only concern “which is always my concern with harbor fright tools” is, is the machine all as it is advertised.

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docholladay

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#2 posted 1067 days ago

I would jump on the deal on the Ridgid and stay far away from the HF saw. Having seen the HF saw up close at my local HF store, I would not even consider buying it. I’ve never seen it in use, but just the poor quality of the machined surface of the table was enough to turn me away. It had noticable machine marks (meaning essentially the table is not flat). No amount of wax on the table surface would make this thing work smoothly. In addition, getting accessories that work with the HF saw would be difficult. No manufacturer will make accessories that would really fit that saw very well. Finally, if you had a problem with the HF at some point, who would you take it to for service? That is not a problem with the Ridgid.

Doc

-- Hey, woodworking ain't brain surgery. Just do something and keep trying till you get it. Doc

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Blackie_

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#3 posted 1067 days ago

The name Ridgid speaks out higher quality and I’m leaning toward this but from what I’m reading it comes out of the box with a vibration swapping out the belt seems to fix most of it and 3/4 horsepower motor, knowing nothing about band saws it seems that might be a bit small? The HF on the other had has received nothing but good reviews across the board and I think it has a higher HP motor but as we all know HF is a buyer beware sort of purchase.

Home Depot no longer carries the Ridgid band saw.

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Blackie_

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#4 posted 1067 days ago

Thanks all, after more thought I think I’m going with the Ridgid, if for some reason it’s not quite what I was looking for I can always resale, it’s still easier on my pocket, HF is not going anywhere, Jet, rikon or grizzly would also still be an option.

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dbhost

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#5 posted 1067 days ago

With all due respect to docholladay, look at the reviews of the HF, and the Ridigd, I have a HF 14” band saw and love it, so I can talk from direct experience here.

I wouldn’t even consider the Ridgid as it is lower powered (3/4HP vs 1HP), has a flimsy stand, and is well known to have bad vibration problems… The one advantage of the Ridgid is a single piece, the dust port actually directly fits a 2.5” shop vac hose. The HF is a 2” port that needs a couple of windings of duct tape before you can slide a shop vac hose OVER the fitting… Fabbing up a 4” port to replace the OE 2” is no problem and a common upgrade on BOTH of these saws… Now mind you I am NOT knocking Ridigid. I own several Ridgid tools, and they are well made, but the BS1400 is fairly widely known to have problems.

Finding accessories to fit the HF has been fine. It’s a standard 14” C frame saw. The tables ARE flat, at least on mine, and every one I have seen…

Simply put, either docholladay came across a dud on display (likely, most tool vendors seem to do that) or he has no clue what he is talking about, which I will give the benefit of the doubt and say, no that’s not the case.

Certainly there are noticeable machine marks where the iron top was milled on the HF, same as the Ridgid, same as the Delta, same as the Jet same as the…. oh you get the idea… Place a known good straight edge on the table, and dead flat. What more could you want?

As far as parts availability from the manufacturer / vendor goes. Never a problem with HF, but the only parts I ordered from them is the riser block kit. Just google Ridgid BS1400 Riser block and see what users are saying about getting a riser block from Ridgid… Now for accessories that fit. I have upgraded mine with a Cobra Coil, Rockler Urethane Tires, Grizzly Tension release assembly (NOT a direct bolt on mind you…), Craftsman Professional fence, HF riser block, HF mobile base, Cool Blocks, Rockler pattern guide. Aside from perhaps a work light, what other accessories could you want? I did have Acurra roller bearing guides in it for a while, but did not like the way they worked. Fitting those was no problem though.

So simply put, YES the Central Machinery 14” band saw is all that it is advertised as. A BASIC good functioning machine lacking finer bells and whistles. The Base is relatively solid unlike the Ridgid, and aside from the start up movement caused by my mobile base, my band saw operates vibration free. Now I did replace the belts with link belts, but that was not neccesary to eliminate vibration, however as hot as my shop gets when not in use in the summer, I was concerned I would bake a set into a regular vee belt.

Now I told you the problems the Ridgid is known for, and I would do you a grave disservice if I didn’t tell you about the Central Machinery band saw’s known drawbacks. And they are…

#1. The assembly instructions are written in bad Chinglish… Meaning they are a bad English translation of Chinese done by a non native English speaker. You will need some patience, and some good mechanical reasoning skills to get this thing together. HINT… The problem is the direction that they show the motor mount attaches… Obviously most guys can figure this out and move on… #2. The power switch is a known failure point. I have had my saw for I guess 3 years now with no problems, but I have seen a few posts from guys that have had switches fail. This isn’t a huge deal. The OE switch location stinks anyway. Just grab a Safety Switch from a vendor like Peachtree, Rockler, MLCS or somebody, and move the switch up to the post within MUCH easier reach…

Both saws from the factory ship with lousy blades. That’s just power tools… Plan on spending a few bucks on good blades.

Having said all that, if your budget can afford, you’d be FAR better off getting a Grizzly G0555P, or G0555X instead. You’ll want some of the higher end features on those saws, and they are still somewhat reasonable…

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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#6 posted 1067 days ago

I own the Ridgid bandsaw and yes it did have some vibration issues that are fairly easy to correct. Also, the 3/4 HP motor is still pretty sufficient. I’ve sawn through thick logs of Oak, Dogwood, and Maple without any problems hesitation from the saw. Just be sure to have a good blade like the Woodslicer from Highland.

I’m not sure I would jump on the $300 used saw, however. Home Depot has been discontinuing their bandsaws and I’ve heard of many people who purchased the saw new for less than $300. If you can purchase it new, you’re better off because Ridgid will honor their lifetime warranty (not sure they do that for used saws). Have you called around all of the HDs in your area?

Won’t comment on the HF model.

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Blackie_

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#7 posted 1067 days ago

dbhost thanks I’ve read reviews on the HF and the mods that have been done particularly rawdawgs50’s review and his mods. there is roughly a $20 difference in the price between these two, the Ridgid being used I got him down to $280 and the HF new at just under the $300 mark. It’s looking like no matter what saw I get there’s going to be extra cost and tweaking.

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syenefarmer

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#8 posted 1067 days ago

Unless it has to be one or the other my inclination would be to recommend neither. Both of those saws will require you to spend money after the fact to get them to perform the way they should. In all likelyhood, by the time you’re done spending that money you’ll be in the neighborhood of the cost of a brand new Grizzly G0555 which would also come with a warranty. Also, in my opinion the RIDGID at $280 is still over priced unless it has some after market features added to it such as a good quality fence. If the HF saw was a new one from one of their stores you could lower that price by 20% if you used one of the coupons.

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PurpLev

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#9 posted 1067 days ago

+1 to syenefarmer.

I was in the same boat several years ago trying to score a good price on a used bandsaw, but when I did the math it didn’t really add up well. I ended up waiting and saving some more and just got a better saw to begin with – did not have to do any upgrades or change anything in it aside from the blade of course but you’d want to get blades either way for different cuts.

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Blackie_

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#10 posted 1067 days ago

All great advise, well a new direction is at hand, I thought about going the ridgid route but sounds like the HF or Grizzly might be the better option considering the feedback I am getting here. think I’ll contact my local woodcrafter and see what they have to offer.

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Blackie_

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#11 posted 1067 days ago

Ok the Griz $475 + $75 shipping comes out to $550.00 minus the price of a HF model with discounts at $300 that would make a difference of roughly $250 so this would be the amount difference in mods should I purchase the HF over the Grizzly.

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Carl Fisher

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#12 posted 1067 days ago

I would say that the guy wants too much on a used Rigid. Depot has been known to put them on sale in the past anywhere from $199-$249.

That said, I own the Rigid and the only money invested is for a good set of urethane tires which you’ll do to either saw, a set of cool blocks, again will recommend for either saw and a piece of 3/4 ply to sit between the machine and the base.

A little fine tuning of the wheel balance by drilling and I can stand a nickle on the bed from start up through shut down. No vibration complaints here and the 3/4 has been enough for anything I’ve done so far including light resawing at the proper feed rate.

Any way you look at it though, I still say he’s asking too much on the Rigid.

-- Carl Fisher, Fort Mill, South Carolina --

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Blackie_

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#13 posted 1067 days ago

Thanks Carl, yeah I just saw on Amazon a used Ridgid going for $220. 00 and from your post that is still a bit much, I think I’ll steer clear of that deal.

LOL I just noticed I’ve been spelling it wrong rigid.

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doyoulikegumwood

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#14 posted 1067 days ago

with all that has been seid and i know i will get an onslaught of folks who do not agree with me but I’m not a fan of grizzly tools unless you can get them shipped for free. by the time you pay shipping you can go to a local tool seller or wood working store and buy a better saw for the money. also I’m guessing you are in Austin, TX you may look for a used machinery store in your area.

The only store that comes to mind from my days living in Dallas is Texas tool trader.

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dbhost

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#15 posted 1067 days ago

If I had it to do over again, I would have grabbed the Grizzly… The HF is fine, but the Grizzly has the features that you are going to want that all of the lower end saws lack…

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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