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Forum topic by derosa posted 09-26-2011 07:50 AM 853 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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derosa

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09-26-2011 07:50 AM

I’ve got one of the new 20.00 stanley no4 planes from Lowes, needless to say it is crap, especially the blade and the twin adjustment screws, only upside is that one screw can be used for the blade adjuster on my no 71.
So I’ve been going over what to do with it. Main thought is grinding out the frog and turning it into an infill plane with a hock blade, real question is, what kind? First thought was some sort of bevel up plane, if I did this would the mouth need to be widened any? It is currently the same width as my series 7 no4.
Second thought was turning it into a shoulder plane. A little work with the drill press and the sides could be opened up as well.
Thoughts, ideas, or alternate suggestions?

-- --Rev. Russ in NY-- A posse ad esse


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crank49

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#1 posted 09-26-2011 03:22 PM

Door stop or boat anchor?

A lot less work.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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Bertha

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#2 posted 09-26-2011 03:26 PM

I’m not a big fan of the Stanley-infills, lol, but that would probably be the most fun. You could try to build a miter-style infill. You could cut try to cut the sides and make a carriage. Like Crank alludes, it’s all a ton of work but if you’re up for the project, it’d be fun to watch.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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Don W

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#3 posted 09-26-2011 04:36 PM

I’ve got a stanley knock off #5 base set aside for the same reason. I want to make an infil just to say I did it. I’ve got to many other projects backed up right now though. I be interest to hear your process if you decide to do it.

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Dan

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#4 posted 09-26-2011 06:48 PM

Modifying the plane may be a fun project. I would be more tempted to try something like that on a plane that was missing parts or damaged.

How about tuning it as best as you can and having an extra #4 for dirty jobs? I have a couple planes I use for taking paint off boards, planing dry glue off and so on.

-- Dan - "Collector of Hand Planes"

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Bertha

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#5 posted 09-26-2011 06:50 PM

^like Dan said, you could practice making totes and pop a cambered blade in there.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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cellophane

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#6 posted 09-26-2011 06:52 PM

Turn it into a scrub plane?

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Bill White

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#7 posted 09-26-2011 08:06 PM

Paper weight?
Shame to say, but the new Stanley planes are not what they used to be. I have not seen the newer “Sweetheart” models.
Bill

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jack1

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#8 posted 09-27-2011 12:33 AM

Crank 49 had a couple of really good ideas… Actually Dan had a practical idea so as to get your money’s worth.

-- jack -- ...measure once, curse twice!

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derosa

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#9 posted 09-27-2011 06:21 AM

I have actually wasted the time necessary to make this plane work ok but it is a real pain to adjust each time it needs sharpening. This isn’t one of the sweetheart versions, it is supposedly an english import. It uses two large posts, one on each side of the blade with two adjustment knobs to raise and lower the blade and set the angle. The blade is very thin and there isn’t an actual chip breaker, the cap serves that purpose but isn’t long enough to do it properly. And I have 2 number 4s as it is excluding a handyman #4 that just hangs out collecting dust.

it is also way too light for either a doorstop or a boat anchor, really it’s only good as landfill filler.

-- --Rev. Russ in NY-- A posse ad esse

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pariswoodworking

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#10 posted 09-27-2011 06:27 AM

it is also way too light for either a doorstop or a boat anchor, really it’s only good as landfill filler.

If someone ever breaks in and tries to steal your planes, you could throw it at them. :)

-- Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein

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